Ok man I get it y'all can stop dog piling me

agreed but sometimes i think it can still go too far. doesnt make me enjoy it less except in maybe only a handful of cases i cant even think of rn

like im thinking some of the most egregious pimp rap type songs about actually beating women or something

i think it can just get old feeling without being offensive or something, like sometimes the repetitive objectifying lyrics of some cock rock or something just get tiresome even though theyre not offending me in the slightest

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Acting like there isn't a whole philosophical and legal debate about this

I see my p*** habit as pro-feminism is there for me so I don't have to to pester my girlfriend for s***when she's not in the mood

I don't think Kanye is an outright sexist at all, but his p*** addiction and accessibility to that world probably warped his worldview around women for a bit. Obviously there are straight up misogynist/women beaters in rap that are 1000000x worse so I do agree on Kanye for the most part

You do you I'm just elaborating my side and explanation of the discussion

Obviously something as comical and outlandish as the Method Man skit (violence) or a lot of Danny's XXX bars shouldn't be taken seriously but I believe Dr. dre and Snoop when they try to tell me that b****es ain't s***

Jamming Project Pat’s Gorilla Pimp feels misogynistic but the hook and beat too smooth

And I haven't been off those guys since I was a teenager. I never loved massive pimp vibe rap. Big Boi the only one that can get away with it cause he seems like a teddy bear.

At the end of the day, it's not a coincidence that a majority of rap listeners are male

I see what you’re saying, but I feel as if hip-hop is one of the only genres with any real “bite” left to it and with the increasing level of homogenization and micro managing within every medium—it’s refreshing to get works that push beyond our perceived notions of acceptability.

That doesn't seem like the case from my perspective

Statistically this is untrue

Show me your statistics bucko

Do we think a 14 year old can discern whether Kim from MMLP is misogynist or not? I couldnt but I just knew I didn't want to hear it

the more biteful examples im talking about are from well over a decade though but yeah i guess. probably something else im not aware too

i can see a 'place for it' (feels like the wrong way to put it but you get what i mean) but i think a lot of people still have a breaking point where too much is too much

i also dont really blame anyone like my mom who refuses to listen to anything she finds misogynistic that says b****es, hoes w/e

Eminem performing Stan with Elton felt like something he had to do just so the kids and immature idiots didn't think he was actually homophobic

It’s kind of ironic this conversation started with me being like “selective moral reductiveness around specific material in art is dumb” and ever since it’s been a bunch of whataboutism.

Sure and I get that, but your mom doesn’t think about or write about art for a living. I’m talking about people who are serious about the mediums they discuss.

Anyways I’m gonna go watch Hard Ticket To Hawaii and bump The Chronic.

Misogynist cop rap