speaking of nico
wonder why they never went with this version of the desertshore album cover
way cooler imo
Is that Ari?
@Koala
Sounds like he has a bit of Leonard Cohen in him. Always thought this was such a weird/surreal pop song to become an actual hit. The Nancy Sinatra parts are almost a bit Nico-esque. like, wth do the lyrics of this song mean lol
Hazelwood himself has said he was f***ed up on d**** and didn't think it had much meaning
Personally I interpret it as a story of trying to move on from a very impactful/painful relationship. When he sobers up, he'll come thru and tell you about this girl who changed his life and ultimately f***ed it up. I guess he's talking to someone he wants to move on with, because the gate metaphor strikes me as sexual.
Then we get the verses from the girl (Phaedra)'s perspective, which describe her and women like her as something to learn from but ultimately not get too close to.
Hazelwood himself has said he was f***ed up on d**** and didn't think it had much meaning
Personally I interpret it as a story of trying to move on from a very impactful/painful relationship. When he sobers up, he'll come thru and tell you about this girl who changed his life and ultimately f***ed it up. I guess he's talking to someone he wants to move on with, because the gate metaphor strikes me as sexual.
Then we get the verses from the girl (Phaedra)'s perspective, which describe her and women like her as something to learn from but ultimately not get too close to.
All I know is Phaedra is a character in Greek Mythology or something. Cool weird little tune though. Love how the duet switching from Hazlewood to Sinatra is kind of jarring but also affecting. especially at the end there. Even Hazlewood on the horse in the sand kind of reminds me of Nico
Also i've read different, that he specifically said he wasn't on d**** when he wrote the song
I'm just gonna guess that the dude had a meaning in mind when he wrote it but just forgot it
and instead of trying to remember he just told people it doesn't mean anything.
pretty much the exact opposite of Paul McCartney trying to pretend like he wrote Blackbird about a young black woman during the civil rights era
pretty, piano
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlZXHV0uTpIwhy do all the sheet music's and synthesias for great piano songs have the melody in them and not just the backing track?
Trying to learn the piano part not the f***ing melody built into it...
Is that Ari?
yeah and I think it's actually from a film or something. the title to this article is hilarious
"VELVET UNDERGROUND SINGER NICO STARS IN OBSCURE, PRETENTIOUS FRENCH ART FILM, 1972"

i can understand that being written in 1972, but this jackass wrote the article in 2015. maybe it is pretentious tho, idk
@Koala @branmalt Greet Death always hit in de cold months
I never heard of these guys but when those winter vibes hit
yeah and I think it's actually from a film or something. the title to this article is hilarious
"VELVET UNDERGROUND SINGER NICO STARS IN OBSCURE, PRETENTIOUS FRENCH ART FILM, 1972"

i can understand that being written in 1972, but this jackass wrote the article in 2015. maybe it is pretentious tho, idk
That gif
yeah and I think it's actually from a film or something. the title to this article is hilarious
"VELVET UNDERGROUND SINGER NICO STARS IN OBSCURE, PRETENTIOUS FRENCH ART FILM, 1972"

i can understand that being written in 1972, but this jackass wrote the article in 2015. maybe it is pretentious tho, idk
Try to explain how it isnt pretentious lol
Try to explain how it isnt pretentious lol
Wouldn't you have to know somebody's education and background to know if they were being pretentious? Nico of the dang Velvet Underground of all things can probably pull it off since they're the ones that invented the rock&roll song-as-art-exhibit. She was in a Fellini opus way back in the 50s so I think she probably spent enough time in the art world.
I remember being super into Nico’s music. I used to have a few of her albums on vinyl too
Wouldn't you have to know somebody's education and background to know if they were being pretentious? Nico of the dang Velvet Underground of all things can probably pull it off since they're the ones that invented the rock&roll song-as-art-exhibit. She was in a Fellini opus way back in the 50s so I think she probably spent enough time in the art world.

Wouldn't you have to know somebody's education and background to know if they were being pretentious? Nico of the dang Velvet Underground of all things can probably pull it off since they're the ones that invented the rock&roll song-as-art-exhibit. She was in a Fellini opus way back in the 50s so I think she probably spent enough time in the art world.
Sounds pretentious even if it is true
Try to explain how it isnt pretentious lol
yeah read my last sentence lol
and I haven't even seen the film
yeah read my last sentence lol
and I haven't even seen the film
Was Sonic Youth pretentious? Rise always thinks so but they have a lot punk in their music and their approach seemed grounded on the same level as artsy.. :mystery:
yeah read my last sentence lol
and I haven't even seen the film
Yeah I don't mind "pretentious"-ness in things if it ends up being cool
Was Sonic Youth pretentious? Rise always thinks so but they have a lot punk in their music and their approach seemed grounded on the same level as artsy.. :mystery:
Their music isn't pretentious but the members might be