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    Florence Pugh I think was great in Oppenheimer. The scenes with her aren’t necessarily about an authentic romantic intimacy, but rather vulnerability. She’s like a specter of what he once could have had. We never actually see any genuine romance for a reason. It’s not that Nolan doesn’t understand how to convey it — he just deliberately avoids it. So many of the characters in it are framed as distorted memories rather than flesh and blood—which works when diving into someone’s shattered psyche. That split second shot of a black gloved man holding Pugh’s head underwater will stick with me for a long time.

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    internet buddy
    https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1686058681463619584

    This is such a bummer

  • OP
    Jul 31, 2023
    internet buddy

    I listened to Ziggy the night before Bowie died and Purple Rain the night before Prince died

    i’ll pay you to listen to Grizzly Bear tonight

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    Fella

    Florence Pugh I think was great in Oppenheimer. The scenes with her aren’t necessarily about an authentic romantic intimacy, but rather vulnerability. She’s like a specter of what he once could have had. We never actually see any genuine romance for a reason. It’s not that Nolan doesn’t understand how to convey it — he just deliberately avoids it. So many of the characters in it are framed as distorted memories rather than flesh and blood—which works when diving into someone’s shattered psyche. That split second shot of a black gloved man holding Pugh’s head underwater will stick with me for a long time.

    those scenes are about titties bruh

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    UIP

    those scenes are about titties bruh

    Can’t tell if you’re joking

  • OP
    Jul 31, 2023
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    Fella

    Can’t tell if you’re joking

    i never joke about titties haven’t seen the movie tho

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    UIP

    i never joke about titties haven’t seen the movie tho

    Lol as a “titty guy” I thought the nudity was very tasteful. I think you’d like the film if you saw it.

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    Jul 31, 2023
    Fella

    Lol as a “titty guy” I thought the nudity was very tasteful. I think you’d like the film if you saw it.

    i’m an ass man but i be damned if i don’t love me some titties too i’ma watch it just for you bruh

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    UIP

    those scenes are about titties bruh

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    https://www.instagram.com/p/CvVpx_TOd7Y

    LMFAO

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    Fella

    Florence Pugh I think was great in Oppenheimer. The scenes with her aren’t necessarily about an authentic romantic intimacy, but rather vulnerability. She’s like a specter of what he once could have had. We never actually see any genuine romance for a reason. It’s not that Nolan doesn’t understand how to convey it — he just deliberately avoids it. So many of the characters in it are framed as distorted memories rather than flesh and blood—which works when diving into someone’s shattered psyche. That split second shot of a black gloved man holding Pugh’s head underwater will stick with me for a long time.

    I thought Flo was convincing in Oppenheimer but she was so much like my ex that every second of her being on screen was hell

    And then Oppenheimer fell in love with an alcoholic communist. He really is my spirit animal

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    Fella

    Florence Pugh I think was great in Oppenheimer. The scenes with her aren’t necessarily about an authentic romantic intimacy, but rather vulnerability. She’s like a specter of what he once could have had. We never actually see any genuine romance for a reason. It’s not that Nolan doesn’t understand how to convey it — he just deliberately avoids it. So many of the characters in it are framed as distorted memories rather than flesh and blood—which works when diving into someone’s shattered psyche. That split second shot of a black gloved man holding Pugh’s head underwater will stick with me for a long time.

    i know but sry that scene with her and Oppenheimer's famous Prometheus quote was extremely out of place and distasteful when put into the thematic focus of that film. I didn't want her to have a fully fleshed out character arc but she's basically there for sexual imagery and that's about it.

  • Jul 31, 2023
    Fella

    I’m not clicking on a video essay like that even if it’s echoing part of my point. Being like “it’s not obnoxiously moralistic in the right way” isn’t the smartest takeaway.

    that's true but the film suffers from so many things that are not just moral reasons. However, they do hang together, which greatly defeats it's purpose in the end. It's at it's ideological core pure Zeitgeist aka corporate "feminism". It's ok but just like the Zeitgeist the film was marketed as being something more than just a zany comedy (imo the portion it excels at in parts. Like I didn't hate it or anything but it's the most discussed film atm I guess and for a reason).

  • Jul 31, 2023
    UIP

    those scenes are about titties bruh

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    Aruji

    i know but sry that scene with her and Oppenheimer's famous Prometheus quote was extremely out of place and distasteful when put into the thematic focus of that film. I didn't want her to have a fully fleshed out character arc but she's basically there for sexual imagery and that's about it.

    This is incredibly reductive.

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    Fella

    This is incredibly reductive.

    that scene is gross. sorry

  • Jul 31, 2023
    Aruji

    that scene is gross. sorry

    I think you’re being a bit silly. Even my prudish 60 year old mother thought it was fine.

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    There’s nothing meant to be titillating in those scenes at all. In the most sexless era in cinema since the 1950’s—it’s ridiculous to frame some of the most tame nudity as “grossly” offensive.

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    Fella

    This is incredibly reductive.

    see. I'm not arguing the film's complexity (it's def there, which is also the reason it hits hard in the end) but I really don't see enough character development for her to have such an important part in the film like she later has.

  • rvi 🦤
    Jul 31, 2023
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    Fella

    There’s nothing meant to be titillating in those scenes at all. In the most sexless era in cinema since the 1950’s—it’s ridiculous to frame some of the most tame nudity as “grossly” offensive.

    titillating :samoh:

  • Jul 31, 2023
    Fella

    There’s nothing meant to be titillating in those scenes at all. In the most sexless era in cinema since the 1950’s—it’s ridiculous to frame some of the most tame nudity as “grossly” offensive.

    no but putting it side to side with the most famous quote concerning guilt by the guy who built the nuclear bomb. Like, I def get it's dramatic purpose but why did it have to be in such a way? This feels like super basic psychoanalsis that doesn't make much sense in the end.

  • Jul 31, 2023
    Aruji

    see. I'm not arguing the film's complexity (it's def there, which is also the reason it hits hard in the end) but I really don't see enough character development for her to have such an important part in the film like she later has.

    As I tried to say—she is an echo of a different life he could have had reverberating through his consciousness. Nobody besides Oppenheimer and Strauss seem to be treated as real “characters” with traditional development—which is intentional. The film is structured like your life flashing before your eyes. These are all phantoms of his memory. The film is about one mans guilt, regret, and shame. The way those memories are played feel deliberately distorted. Shifting constantly between subjective and objective.

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    Noir

    I thought Flo was convincing in Oppenheimer but she was so much like my ex that every second of her being on screen was hell

    And then Oppenheimer fell in love with an alcoholic communist. He really is my spirit animal

    Lmaoo this why i hated Lady Bird

  • Jul 31, 2023
    rvi

    titillating :samoh:

    Didn’t even think of that when I wrote it lol