Fella

4y

That’s absurd. If you don’t think there was a conscious effort by music critics to try and overcorrect for past dismissals of that kind of rap in favor of more technical conscious hip-hop than you’re delusional.

Fella

4y

I wasn’t saying you did and I wasn’t saying what you were saying was racist, just found it bizarre you threw that implication back my way.

Fella

4y

I will say a lot of the indie stuff in the first half of the decade definitely has worked its way into a lot of peoples essential canon. I have a huge nostalgia for discovering stuff like Beach House. You’ll see Bloom’s album cover on all sorts of favorite album lists right next to like classic 70’s and 80’s records.

Elric

4y

You outright said these guys are d*** addicts and that it's comical to even picture them addressing track sequencing.

Elric

4y

You outright said these guys are d*** addicts and that it's comical to even picture them addressing track sequencing.

Galaxy de list mon

4y

He was only joking haha

internet buddy

4y

or, a new generation just knew how to listen to it more than the previous generation

More than anything, Barter 6 feels like a 50-minute performance of what rap, as a form, can do: rap that need not transcend itself, towards High Art on one hand or commercial art on the other, in order to succeed in 2015. Thug’s rapping itself, known for its unpredictability, is sharper than ever; his voice feels clarified, strengthened. Take "Halftime", the most thrilling technical display here, on which Thug seamlessly snaps into a dozen different flows: casually extending the second syllable of "re-cy-cles" so that it threatens to throw the song off track entirely, pausing a beat, unleashing a quick guffaw, snapping back on beat. It's an almost-reckless balance-beam routine. He pauses only for an ingenious vocoder breakdown that melts his cries of "Havin’ the time of my muhfuckin’ liiiiiife" into semiotic ooze, suddenly giving the blood-red backdrop of the cover art an almost Lynchian cast, like the velveteen Black Lodge interior.

something like this could only come from someone who grew up with at least a passing interest in rap in contrast to

Though he’s a sharp, detailed writer, a meticulous craftsman and an influential stylist — as well as lifestylist — Jay-Z is not extremely expressive or innovative, and The Blueprint threatens at times to slide into monotony. This is not just because of his unvarying flow, but because he never turns it off. He rarely pauses to let the beat breathe, and has a bad habit of talking back to every sample. So when the sped-up voice (RZA-style) of Bobby Byrd sings, “You don’t know what you’re doing,” Jay-Z responds, “Sure I do”; when David Ruffin sings, “Never change,” Jay-Z responds, “I never change”; when Bobby “Blue” Bland sings, “Ain’t no love in the heart of the city,” Hova asks, “Where’s the love?”

Fella

4y

The fact both of you jumped to “he must mean they don’t know what they’re doing because they’re black” is significantly more racist than anything I said.

Fella

4y

The fact both of you jumped to “he must mean they don’t know what they’re doing because they’re black” is significantly more racist than anything I said.

internet buddy

4y

especially since there are non-black rappers who do that s*** you were joking about like lil xan and lil pump

internet buddy

4y

especially since there are non-black rappers who do that s*** you were joking about like lil xan and lil pump

Galaxy de list mon

4y

At what point did I ever say that at all? I listed a bunch of artists I consider to have been great in the decade and defended Future and Young Thug as serious artists. Where the f*** did I ever bring up race?

Bizzle

4y

All these albums are ones I really enjoyed for a couple weeks then never went back to. I should revisit

Elric

4y

Felt this today going through Yeezus era life was good

Elric

4y

Because we're always talking about those rappers in this thread? He name dropped thugger and future

Fella

4y

Are you not even conscious of what you just responded to. You were agreeing with Elric’s assessment of what I was saying.

Galaxy de list mon

4y

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I was responding directly to that quote about your initial dismissal of many artists fitting under that umbrella and I was not part of your little back and forth before that. Are you conscious of the fact that I was only responding to ONE comment rather than the precedings of the discussion which I did not comment on beforehand or agree with.

Elric

4y

Because we're always talking about those rappers in this thread? He name dropped thugger and future

internet buddy

4y

I def don't agree with that but Fidel started out s***ting on "half of these new artists people hype up". His whole stance sounds exactly like someone who hasn't dug too far beyond the mainstream, even if that isn't true.

Fella

4y

It’s not the best decade for rap by any means. Not to sound like an old head but half of these new artists people overhype are d*** addicted morons who don’t have an artistic bone in their body who get by simply by having interesting producers. I feel there’s been an over corrective response in the last decade to annoying “real rap” dorks who care only for technical ability. There’s so much disposable junk rap in the 2010’s.