Fella

4y

You finally had me thinking your point was fair about Imagine and then you say this. Damnit bro lol

rise zero

4y

You really think either of those guys would've agreed to that

Fella

4y

Honestly if someone could pull off a big melodramatic piano ballad like that around this time it would have been Brian Wilson. I think he’d have made that melody soar without sounding cheap.

Fella

4y

Why not

rise zero

4y

Cause the premise of the song is super lame and they didnt seem like close friends except for that one time they got loaded in the back of a cab in the 60s

But I'm just making assumptions

Elric

4y

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They were pals but lennons ego and stature probably made it harder for them to be as comfortable as George and Bob were

Elric

4y

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Imagine does have a ridiculously beautiful melody and vocal just too bad he decided clobber you with such straightforward and impossibly idealistic lyrics. Should've got Dylan to help him finesse it.

Bizzle

4y

@HeyFella @drjdeponytail

What do you think of the new Will Sheff solo track? Seems alright to me but I feel like it lacks the bite of the best Okkervil River songs

Fella

4y

I will admit though that when all those celebs sang Imagine back when covid started I actually despised the song. When I think about it divorced of all of its context I think it’s totally fine.

Bizzle

4y

That's not that much of an achievement really, Imagine is one of the worst songs ever written

rvi

4y

that was f***ing hilarious

suzuki

4y

Imagine has been cringe long before the covid video

Fella

4y

Nah

suzuki

4y

Thinking about you listening to imagine and a single tear rolling down your cheek as you consider all the injustice in the world

Fella

4y

Nope. I’m just not trying too hard.

Galaxy de list mon

4y

Imagine sucks

Fella

4y

I will admit though that when all those celebs sang Imagine back when covid started I actually despised the song. When I think about it divorced of all of its context I think it’s totally fine.

RASIE

4y

I was going to chime in and say that "Imagine" on its own is a harmless, airy tune that's just fine. What makes its awful is when it's used seriously as a vehicle for a social/political message, or to seriously persuade people to come together (no pun intended), which has been a common thing to see over the past 40 years.

It doesn't help that the song's very broad content makes it extremely easy for any person or PR group to appropriate to try pandering to LCDs. That just makes it easier to turn around and criticize the song itself as vague lyrical nonsense.

If "Imagine" hadn't become such a keystone for pop-culture and PR, I'm sure the writing/subject matter wouldn't be dismissed much in that way. Lennon and Ono's image as a political/social activists probably doesn't help its case either — compared to them being so vocal and direct about issues in public, the song comes across as a what would now be a run-of-the-mill, radlib grievance Tweet.

I still agree that the song is fine removed from any pop-culture context. But i don't think saying it's trash or s***ty is necessarily a boring take either.

The real boring take is the countless people who still villify and mock Yoko Ono's music and role in Lennon's/Beatles' trajectory.

Fella

4y

That first bit is my point. I feel like the actual song has been ruined by its use and I guess that use is a result of its initial misguided intent.