Everything is attainable with the right drive, attitude and work ethic. Sorry you lack optimism and the good qualities required to reach the highest calibre of business. But just because you can’t do it doesn’t mean you should call for the deaths of people who can and did.
this sounds white.
Instead of trying to kill CEOs because you are filled with envy why not work hard to become a CEO yourself and become rich as well?
Not a surprising comment coming from this poster
Not sure what point youre trying to make here. Nobody advocates for random lone wolf violence. Only organized, collective class violence led by a People’s Army is capable of doing what needs to be done.
It is good to advocate for “politics by other means” in order to normalize the idea and expand peoples imagination of what is politically possible so that we can hopefully do just that in the future. You don’t need to be - nor should you be - a crash out to do this.
I dont have the energy to get into a whole thing about stuff like this anymore
But essentially its way too easy to “advocate” for stuff like this without being willing to spill blood. She’s essentially telling some random mf to go crash out while she’s just gonna tweet and story post from expensive cafes about it
I dont expect her to become some superhero but what im describing in the sentence before this is also…funny? lol
That’s some real s*** Ngl
I can’t actually condone it but after so long without actual change from following the rules
I don’t know how niggas wasn’t already booming s*** lol
We supposed to be the country that’s the most on go
Yeah nah if ur making 30k a year in the US ur life most likely sucks ass
Yeah, maybe compared to Congolese cobalt miners, you’re living better but like.. cmon why would knowing that quell your disdain for the ruling class
I dont have the energy to get into a whole thing about stuff like this anymore
But essentially its way too easy to “advocate” for stuff like this without being willing to spill blood. She’s essentially telling some random mf to go crash out while she’s just gonna tweet and story post from expensive cafes about it
I dont expect her to become some superhero but what im describing in the sentence before this is also…funny? lol
where do you land on this argument yourself?
where do you land on this argument yourself?
The dude getting killed? I don’t necessarily cheer anyone’s death but i understand the point we are at in history where this s*** finna get crazy over the next 50 years if they dont implement fundamental changes
The dude getting killed? I don’t necessarily cheer anyone’s death but i understand the point we are at in history where this s*** finna get crazy over the next 50 years if they dont implement fundamental changes
Condom Eyes posting
I dont have the energy to get into a whole thing about stuff like this anymore
But essentially its way too easy to “advocate” for stuff like this without being willing to spill blood. She’s essentially telling some random mf to go crash out while she’s just gonna tweet and story post from expensive cafes about it
I dont expect her to become some superhero but what im describing in the sentence before this is also…funny? lol
^^^
Condom Eyes posting
Condom eyes posting would be actually where most of this thread stands, actually... Wishing death on the elites while doing nothing. Modern radical leftism in the West typically wishes for others to start a revolution. At least the old Russians and Cubans stood on business. What Ethel and many users in the thread stand for is cowardice, hypocrisy.
Condom eyes posting would be actually where most of this thread stands, actually... Wishing death on the elites while doing nothing. Modern radical leftism in the West typically wishes for others to start a revolution. At least the old Russians and Cubans stood on business. What Ethel and many users in the thread stand for is cowardice, hypocrisy.
That being said, you can advocate change as a leftist without advocating for quasi-bolshevism. Revolution means war, and lots of death.
That being said, you can advocate change as a leftist without advocating for quasi-bolshevism. Revolution means war, and lots of death.
Once Ethel dies for her beliefs will your stance on her change?
Not sure what point youre trying to make here. Nobody advocates for random lone wolf violence. Only organized, collective class violence led by a People’s Army is capable of doing what needs to be done.
It is good to advocate for “politics by other means” in order to normalize the idea and expand peoples imagination of what is politically possible so that we can hopefully do just that in the future. You don’t need to be - nor should you be - a crash out to do this.
Only organized, collective class violence led by a People’s Army is capable of doing what needs to be done.
@inspoeater's point is right. Ethel would theoretically need to join a "collective class violence army." Practice what you preach, right? Or will she, like many other modern-day leftists, sit down and theorise, moralise, about how modern-day capitalism is terrible and we must overthrow it, and unlike previous auth-left dictatorships, we will make it right.
Talk s*** about economic liberalism all you want; at the very least, we are not living in an authoritarian hellscape, as every communist country was in the past.
Anyway, I can't imagine a group of modern western leftists would ever organize a competent and large enough group to overthrow and coup the current government.
Btw, you're not acting in favour of the general public. Hypothetically speaking, take a country like America. Do you really think the majority of people would sit back and accept such a drastic shift—especially in a nation historically opposed to communism—abandoning its current constitutional federal republic? Transitioning a country in such a way would undoubtedly lead to mass bloodshed, as history shows with events like the Whites vs. Bolsheviks.
Once Ethel dies for her beliefs will your stance on her change?
Sure, but that's not really changing my opinion on the general idea. As tobacco mentioned, doing a random crash out lone kill will not amount to much, as evidenced by Luigi. It was only the beginning of the conversation. For a true revolution to occur, there must be a plan.
Sure, but that's not really changing my opinion on the general idea. As tobacco mentioned, doing a random crash out lone kill will not amount to much, as evidenced by Luigi. It was only the beginning of the conversation. For a true revolution to occur, there must be a plan.
I agree. You’re very knowledgable on the subject. My question to you is how many revolutions start with martyrdom? Being a leader and martyr seem related
Can Luigi be one and Ethel the other
I agree. You’re very knowledgable on the subject. My question to you is how many revolutions start with martyrdom? Being a leader and martyr seem related
Can Luigi be one and Ethel the other
Thanks, but not really lol. But to answer your question...I mean, quite a few. Iran, Russia, and France come to mind. IIRC, it wasn't until Nicholas II's death that it became clear that the civil war would be massive. A spark is usually required to start a revolution (martyrdom). Today, we are far too satisfied and content (for better or for worse) with our way of life. Russia was extremely poor at the time, with a large % of homeless people under a monarchist regime, with a highly regressive hierarchy that allowed people to buy into leaving their lives for revolution.
Radicalization, reactionary movements are pretty much things of the old days, but people still yearn for it. We are actually seeing reactionary movements across the world gaining steam which is very scary.
Anyway, unionisation, grassroots organising, activism, dialogue, compromise, legislative advocacy/policy reform, protesting, and boycotting, which lead to economic pressure, are all things that helped (and continue to help) change our mixed economy and current policies; the United States still has a long way to go, I agree... But given the history of radical movements, I do not believe that radicalisation is the answer. Historically, there are events such as the Great Leap Forward and Holodomor that many leftists today overlook. Who is to say that wouldn't happen in the modern day?
Radical and reactionary movements always lead to authority powers wielding power. For that reason, I don't think that would help--and that includes wishing death on elites, if that makes me a bootlicker, fine.