Mar 5, 2023·1 replyVibeControversy doesn't sell well these days. Your entire argument is based around peak eminem but he thrived in the 2000s
XXXTENTACION, Tekashi, even Kanye are all examples of 2010s artists being controversial and none of them sell as well as Drake
Drake even started outselling Eminem in the 2010s
Bruh I’ma stop you right now. There’s a large difference between the most controversial rapper of all time and the rappers you listed. Like this isn’t nuanced at all.
And you’re talkin bout Drake started outselling Eminem in the 2010s like bruh he could barely outsell an old and flabby Eminem. A prime Eminem would destroy Drake’s numbers
- Mar 5, 2023
HeadassThis is exactly what an eminem fan would say
This is exactly what an eminem fan would say
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replysvilthevil
Bruh I’ma stop you right now. There’s a large difference between the most controversial rapper of all time and the rappers you listed. Like this isn’t nuanced at all.
And you’re talkin bout Drake started outselling Eminem in the 2010s like bruh he could barely outsell an old and flabby Eminem. A prime Eminem would destroy Drake’s numbers
Your entire argument is based around teleporting 2000s culture to now. Eminem thrived then. He wouldn't thrive now. He stopped selling well once streaming came along
He actually benefited from people having to go out and buy his CD immediately so they could hear what he said on the album
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replyDedication 666
i know this... they were released as singles after the album... so they both would not hit number one. stan would have no chance and would not have enough radio play
All this is you just making statements without backing anything up
- Mar 5, 2023svilthevil
All this is you just making statements without backing anything up
before we go any further what do you think is harder selling million first week now or in 2000
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replyDedication 666
before we go any further what do you think is harder selling million first week now or in 2000
It’s harder now and Eminem would still do it.
Now I’M going to need you to explain why the biggest rapper in the history of the genre wouldn’t do 1 milli fw in the streaming era
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replyVibe
Your entire argument is based around teleporting 2000s culture to now. Eminem thrived then. He wouldn't thrive now. He stopped selling well once streaming came along
He actually benefited from people having to go out and buy his CD immediately so they could hear what he said on the album
Your first sentence is so damn stupid just stop.
And how exactly would a prime Eminem not thrive today? The s***ting on everybody not giving a f*** about anything Eminem. How would he not thrive?
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replysvilthevil
It’s harder now and Eminem would still do it.
Now I’M going to need you to explain why the biggest rapper in the history of the genre wouldn’t do 1 milli fw in the streaming era
CLB and Scorpion did about 600k in streaming units each.
so you are suggesting eminem would do a million?? so you think prime em is 1.7 times bigger than drake? that shows you arn't even trying to be realistic.
you could sell 200k first week back then and not even be top 20 on bilboard 200
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replyDedication 666
CLB and Scorpion did about 600k in streaming units each.
so you are suggesting eminem would do a million?? so you think prime em is 1.7 times bigger than drake? that shows you arn't even trying to be realistic.
you could sell 200k first week back then and not even be top 20 on bilboard 200
You say I’m not being realistic and then proceed to not back it up
Why is the most controversial rapper/the biggest rapper of all time moving more units than Drake so crazy to you?
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replysvilthevil
Your first sentence is so damn stupid just stop.
And how exactly would a prime Eminem not thrive today? The s***ting on everybody not giving a f*** about anything Eminem. How would he not thrive?
His content was so largely based around pop culture of the 2000s. The shock value content also doesn't work today.
Relapse and Recovery are the closest metrics we have to how much he would sell in his prime era that you keep mentioning, and Drake matched those numbers by his 2nd album
- Mar 5, 2023·2 repliessvilthevil
You say I’m not being realistic and then proceed to not back it up
Why is the most controversial rapper/the biggest rapper of all time moving more units than Drake so crazy to you?
biggest rapper based on what?
And do you think prime em was twice almost twice as big as drake 💀
like what numbers are you basing any of this off of?
like you think stan would go number one 1 weeks after album dropped 💀
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replyVibe
His content was so largely based around pop culture of the 2000s. The shock value content also doesn't work today.
Relapse and Recovery are the closest metrics we have to how much he would sell in his prime era that you keep mentioning, and Drake matched those numbers by his 2nd album
1. Your argument is so weird. Take “pop culture of the 2000s” and replace it with “popular culture of the 2020s.” I don’t understand how this is so hard.
2. Bruh I said PRIME Eminem not overdosed, technically dead then came to life, and had to completely relearn how to rap Eminem. I mean 1999-2003 Eminem.
3. Even going up against a well past his prime Eminem it took Drake forever to surpass him. Hell, Em outsold Drake in 2013 and did like 800k fw. Like I want you to explain to me how an Eminem of 1999-2003 would not thrive in this era. You’re arguments don’t make sense
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replysvilthevil
1. Your argument is so weird. Take “pop culture of the 2000s” and replace it with “popular culture of the 2020s.” I don’t understand how this is so hard.
2. Bruh I said PRIME Eminem not overdosed, technically dead then came to life, and had to completely relearn how to rap Eminem. I mean 1999-2003 Eminem.
3. Even going up against a well past his prime Eminem it took Drake forever to surpass him. Hell, Em outsold Drake in 2013 and did like 800k fw. Like I want you to explain to me how an Eminem of 1999-2003 would not thrive in this era. You’re arguments don’t make sense
No, your arguments don't make sense.
To think that an album with references to Columbine, Marilyn Manson, Britney Spears, NSYNC, 9/11 etc would sell well today is insane. Lol.
Even if he updated it to newer artists and mass shootings / pop culture references it would just come off as corny. People aren't listening to music like that anymore
You really want to hear 2000s Eminem talk about Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber?
Mar 5, 2023Dedication 666biggest rapper based on what?
And do you think prime em was twice almost twice as big as drake 💀
like what numbers are you basing any of this off of?
like you think stan would go number one 1 weeks after album dropped 💀
Prime Em was like 50 times bigger than prime drake, times were just different back then. It wasn’t possible to be that big anymore by the time drake dropped
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replyDedication 666
biggest rapper based on what?
And do you think prime em was twice almost twice as big as drake 💀
like what numbers are you basing any of this off of?
like you think stan would go number one 1 weeks after album dropped 💀
No no no I ask you those types of questions because you haven’t pulled out a single number yet while I’ve been doing all the heavy lifting.
Point blank do you think Drake is bigger than Eminem and if so lay out exactly how.
Cause the numbers ain’t your favor kid
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replysvilthevil
No no no I ask you those types of questions because you haven’t pulled out a single number yet while I’ve been doing all the heavy lifting.
Point blank do you think Drake is bigger than Eminem and if so lay out exactly how.
Cause the numbers ain’t your favor kid
okay lets take another album from 2000.
Lights out by lil wayne debuted at 24 on bilboard 200 with 205k sold first week. do you think that album was just as big as honestly nevermind? or bigger than dawn fm?
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replyVibe
No, your arguments don't make sense.
To think that an album with references to Columbine, Marilyn Manson, Britney Spears, NSYNC, 9/11 etc would sell well today is insane. Lol.
Even if he updated it to newer artists and mass shootings / pop culture references it would just come off as corny. People aren't listening to music like that anymore
You really want to hear 2000s Eminem talk about Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber?
Of course an updated version would sell like crazy.
Like literally those songs are still bein played to this day.
You personally finding it corny ain’t gonna change those crazy ass numbers
- Mar 5, 2023·2 repliesDedication 666
okay lets take another album from 2000.
Lights out by lil wayne debuted at 24 on bilboard 200 with 205k sold first week. do you think that album was just as big as honestly nevermind? or bigger than dawn fm?
Bro let’s put it this way. Jay-Z had the second highest selling album fw that year and it did 500k fw.
Eminem’s Album did 1.7 million fw.
Eminem literally outsold the second highest rapper, Jay-Z, by 1.2 million fw.
That gulf between the competition is literally bigger first week sales of Drake’s biggest album
You point blank just don’t comprehend how big Eminem was.
- Mar 5, 2023·1 reply
I’m dippin out this thread. Feels like I’m talkin to a bunch of children
SWAN 💜Mar 5, 2023Em is just that guy
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replysvilthevil
Of course an updated version would sell like crazy.
Like literally those songs are still bein played to this day.
You personally finding it corny ain’t gonna change those crazy ass numbers
The landscape of music today doesn't even sound like that anymore
Hardcore rap was slowly fazing out once Grad vs Curtis happened in 2007.
Not only that but his production with Dr. Dre beats would also be dated in this era
He would have to be an entirely different artist
- Mar 5, 2023·1 replysvilthevil
I’m dippin out this thread. Feels like I’m talkin to a bunch of children
You're dipping out because your argument doesn't make sense
- SWAN 💜Mar 5, 2023·2 repliessvilthevil
Bro let’s put it this way. Jay-Z had the second highest selling album fw that year and it did 500k fw.
Eminem’s Album did 1.7 million fw.
Eminem literally outsold the second highest rapper, Jay-Z, by 1.2 million fw.
That gulf between the competition is literally bigger first week sales of Drake’s biggest album
You point blank just don’t comprehend how big Eminem was.
Honestly I think if Taylor can sell 1.5M fw today then so could Em (with physicals of course)
Not sure why the other guy thinks it’s completely out of the realm of possibilities
- Mar 5, 2023·2 repliessvilthevil
Bro let’s put it this way. Jay-Z had the second highest selling album fw that year and it did 500k fw.
Eminem’s Album did 1.7 million fw.
Eminem literally outsold the second highest rapper, Jay-Z, by 1.2 million fw.
That gulf between the competition is literally bigger first week sales of Drake’s biggest album
You point blank just don’t comprehend how big Eminem was.
Drake did 1,040,000 first week in 2016 so do you think prime eminem would do 1.7 million in 2016? I just don't see where you think those people are coming from
- Mar 5, 2023·2 repliesSWAN
Honestly I think if Taylor can sell 1.5M fw today then so could Em (with physicals of course)
Not sure why the other guy thinks it’s completely out of the realm of possibilities
he saying eminem would do a million in streaming units alone... while scorpion and clb did about 600k