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So it's acceptable because he only does it for his wavy records? It's acceptable because his versions are better than the reference track versions? Yes, of course his version should be better, he's Drake. They should be better than the QM edition, Vory edition, PND edition, Yachy edition, Cash Cobain edition, etc.
If Kanye is the rebuttal to this argument that's fine. Then we'll just agree to say Drake is in the same tier as Kanye in terms of rap music (which is an elite tier) rather than the tier that includes guys like Jay, Nas, DMX (just to name a few. plenty of lyrical guys that have made a huge mark on hip hop) and the newer age guys like Kendrick Cole.
I think it's fair to then say Drake is in that Kanye tier/category rather than the Jay, Nas, Cole, Kendrick tier category?
Ye said 12 writers don't add up to Drake and called him the best rapper. Obviously by Ye's own words not the same tier...
Drake tweeted out on like 09 he had writers block and Kanye helped him finish the last 4 bars.
Drake tweeted he was so upset he could never finish the last two bars for Drunk and Nasty.
Vory / Yachty / QM / Party all credited.
Drake in his Rap Radar interview 2019 literally said I'll take the hits for the writer thing for everyone else it's fine.
Every top tier rapper has said Drake is him from underground to mainstream to battle rap.
You won't believe it but
Nas used writers
(stick.man / Jay E / QM)
Jay-Z used writers
(Lupe/ Rick Ross/ Future)
Drake has never covered up or ran from a reference track wether it was something he did for someone or something someone did for him.
Do I believe there are rappers who wrote it all themselves yes. I also believe that number is sooo much smaller than you would think.
I used to think like you.
1) I never questioned Drake's pen. But to build up all these excuses for him, when multiple reference tracks constantly leak is disingenuous. All I'm saying is, he'll always have this knock on him. One can always think he is an amazing writer, who has this flaw of reference tracks.
2) Sure other rappers can have writers, but until those reference tracks leak that's speculation. Drake has had multiple verses and basically entire songs that he clearly copied. That's not speculation.
3) So it doesn't bother you at all that one of Drake's biggest selling points is his versatility as a musician and how he can make totally different sounds, but come to find out some of those really unique songs you thought only a Drake can make such as Ratchet Happy Birthday, Mob Ties, Jumbotron, Calling For You, and a plethora more, are just songs from other people? Doesn't that hurt the idea that Drake is this really versatile musician? To me it always will.
Ye said 12 writers don't add up to Drake and called him the best rapper. Obviously by Ye's own words not the same tier...
So then why do people keep bringing up Kanye West as a gotcha when reference tracks come up. Kanye uses it, why does no one care. It's only Drake.
They aren't in the same tier.
Higher standards for Drake.
Is that wild?
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1) I never questioned Drake's pen. But to build up all these excuses for him, when multiple reference tracks constantly leak is disingenuous. All I'm saying is, he'll always have this knock on him. One can always think he is an amazing writer, who has this flaw of reference tracks.
2) Sure other rappers can have writers, but until those reference tracks leak that's speculation. Drake has had multiple verses and basically entire songs that he clearly copied. That's not speculation.
3) So it doesn't bother you at all that one of Drake's biggest selling points is his versatility as a musician and how he can make totally different sounds, but come to find out some of those really unique songs you thought only a Drake can make such as Ratchet Happy Birthday, Mob Ties, Jumbotron, Calling For You, and a plethora more, are just songs from other people? Doesn't that hurt the idea that Drake is this really versatile musician? To me it always will.
1 If Drake can write, Drake can write.
2 Ref doesn't prove who wrote it
3 Drake is probably the most versatile rapper ever in styles and sound. Those handful of ref tracks don't negate the 450+ others.
“Until those ref tracks leak, it’s speculation”
*checks literal writing credits instead
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So it's acceptable because he only does it for his wavy records? It's acceptable because his versions are better than the reference track versions? Yes, of course his version should be better, he's Drake. They should be better than the QM edition, Vory edition, PND edition, Yachy edition, Cash Cobain edition, etc.
If Kanye is the rebuttal to this argument that's fine. Then we'll just agree to say Drake is in the same tier as Kanye in terms of rap music (which is an elite tier) rather than the tier that includes guys like Jay, Nas, DMX (just to name a few. plenty of lyrical guys that have made a huge mark on hip hop) and the newer age guys like Kendrick Cole.
I think it's fair to then say Drake is in that Kanye tier/category rather than the Jay, Nas, Cole, Kendrick tier category?
Nas has literally been with a frequent ghost writer in the studio bro your talking dumb s*** and that’s for a rap rap record, I’m saying I could give two f***s if a pop record has a reference track, show me his am pm series and then we can talk about it until then you sound dumb as f*** and are clearly Ill informed on who has actually been seen with other writers and who have had those writers come out and say they wrote for him, QM to this day credits Drake and said he ain’t touching him so wtf u on about
For some reason I’m tonight gang . Don’t know I just got a feeling 😎
So then why do people keep bringing up Kanye West as a gotcha when reference tracks come up. Kanye uses it, why does no one care. It's only Drake.
They aren't in the same tier.
Higher standards for Drake.
Is that wild?
You're missing that people are pointing out Ye has refs 100s of them and he called himself the best and there wasn't the same push back there is for the guy with 10-20 ref tracks.
Who also has written for other rappers and singers.
You have the refs as a knock against him. That's fine.
Stop trying to convince us.
We obviously feel different.
Like 4 of us gave you thought out reasoning and you just keep saying it's a knock. If he can write he can write been proven and stated time and again by some of the best ever. I'm done with this now enjoy your day.
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whole pool bumping to passion fruit right now
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