crazy thing is Ye fans don’t even care about sales like that just wanted him to do well ☠️

not surprising tbh

Are any numbers

Donda on a Monday got more streams than CBL on a Saturday

Yea US numbers

Hell yeah and then lost 44% of listeners in the next day

Y'all forgetting up until the late 90s hip hop wasn't even a popular genre of music. Other than novelty acts and the Beastie Boys nobody was doing anything more than 3x Platinum in the game that was considered dope besides Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg, until Pac and Biggie came thru. 3m was like the threshold for achieving pop star at the time bc mfs actually bought physical albums back then. Then from 97 onward the underground scene birthed some of the best/most influential hip hop records ever, as did the mainstream. In the late 00s-early 10s the mixtape era began and there were years where entire top 10s were free mixtapes, 2014 comes to mind in that regard. The hip hop culture was never dependent on sales to define quality. It's a win-win if something is a classic and sells a lot (early Eminem, 50 Cent, Wayne, Kanye, Dre, Jay, Beastie Boys, etc), but it's not a requirement at all.

Between this and your post above it you’re confused. Kanye’s first day was 95M streams and Drake’s 2nd day was 90M. Not to mention the absolute blowout of the first day. Idk what your rationale is for Kanye having “won”.
And for the product that lasts longer, what do you think is gonna happen? Look back on the numbers historically. Overall, Drake sells more even as time goes on so people obviously continue consuming the music well after the first week or even year. He continually gets more streams and even in the years where he doesn’t drop an album he is still the most listened to rappers (and one of the most listened to artists in general) on Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, etc. He has the most songs with over 100 million streams, most songs with over a billion, the list doesn’t really end.
His older albums and songs continue to chart and get certifications, he’s the most streamed artist of all time, the longest running on the billboard, he sells more than any other hip hop artist even outside of first week, his songs spend more time at the top of the charts, whatever metric of consumption you want to look at, he is still number one in that category and still consistently the most listened to hip hop artist there is. And has been for years.
So neither of your points make any sense. Idk why you’re so wrapped up in this war when the extent of your involvement in it will never equate to more than being a fanboy cheerleading online for your hero.
The only reason Kanye fans are so up in arms now is because the one thing Kanye’s always had is being the critical darling. For whatever reason that’s been the most important thing to a lot of his fans even though a lot of it is nothing more than out of touch white people writing the reviews they think they’re supposed to. But he hasn’t had that on his last few at bats and Kendrick is pretty clearly taking that spot. So now they’re trying to find other ways to show that he still “wins”.
With all that being said, if you like Kanye more, that’s absolutely fine. Donda has some great stuff on it too and Kanye obviously has a great discography. Keep listening to what you like. But even with you moving the goalposts for what you define as “winning” you're still not even accomplishing that.
Drake and Kanye have both shown a ton of longevity. They’re both great artists. You can like and listen to both without being delusional about the state of the game. If Kanye isn’t getting the glowing critical reviews anymore but is still top 3 or top 5 in sales (let’s be honest, Kendrick is beating Kanye and possibly drake too and lil baby will probably do well his next go round) and you still enjoy the music who the f*** cares? There can only be one number 1 but that doesn’t mean you can’t still like or listen to other people or enjoy them more.

Y’all have to go outside

Donda > CLB

And still outsold Donda

🐐

only real music...

Exit the thread then, stan wars going on

Henny undefeated

imagine reading this thesis on Kanye's sales lmao goddamn

I can’t wait til he straight up admits the album is mid

drake stans hate numbers when its not working in they favor

WOW