It's not a given. How many people in capitalism think they can be the next Jeff Bezos if they work hard enough? How many people for example oppose unions despite being wage laborers?

Nothing wrong with thinking that you can be super successful it's a good mindset to have its just unlikely. Same thing with people who want to get into pro sports.

It's not a good mindset when the lottery chance of being a billionaire lets people vote against their own immediate self-interests again and again and again, let alone endure wage slavery and all that comes with it.

You're ignoring the point that it is not a given to most people that your interests as a worker are diametrically opposed to those of a capitalist.

Thinking you can be it is different from voting like you are it now. If I was poor I wouldn't vote as if I am a billionaire because that wouldn't help me. When people vote there are multiple issues on the ballot so they may be for one policy but against the candidate for other reasons. Also some people just vote for a color because someone told them.

Always fascinating to pop into threads like these, observing communists in their natural habitat

The way the thread title's written as a question to invite discussion, yet any other view is immediately hit with "dumbass, idiot, moron, re***d," etc

You can tell they think they're actually being persuasive too with all that hostility. Since it's likely that same tactic that pushed them into this worldview (fear of social ostracization from their young peers, being called stupid)

Carry on, gentlemen

Galileo died of natural causes at 77, he was put under house arrest though

Who did i call any of these things

You're right Still wrong to equivocate "access to knowledge = intelligence"

"If I was poor I wouldn't vote as if I am a billionaire because that wouldn't help me."

Well gee that's what millions of people worldwide do. It's called right-wing economics. But the wealth will trickle down any minute now...

And who tf becomes a communist in the west out of fear of ostracization lmfao, like capitalism isn't the hegemonic ideology

This what PragerU mfers really believe lmao

choking butterfly peer pressured me into collectivizing my properties

Yes. Yes. Yes. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. no. Yes

Cant spell choking butterfly without the king

or butt (gay)

Yes, it promotes it but also who cares

You fw narcissism?

When people vote there are multiple issues on the ballot so they may be for one policy but against the candidate for other reasons. Also some people just vote for a color because someone told them.

Someone being a narcissist never rlly upset me before

I think it's harmful to society and most people would probably agree

You never been in a family or relationship with a narcissist they can ruin everything and everyone around them

Capitalism cannot exist without the exploitation of those without capital and especially rewards and benefits the most selfish human beings among us, particularly those born with capital.

Capitalism is a system designed to continue a cycle of wealth for those that already have it and gradually worsens conditions for those without capital. It is not a fair system. It is not a merit based system. Capitalism is simply a structuring of the economy that enriches the few at the top, while harming the rest and offering a small amount of mid-level opportunities for handful of people willing to exploit their peers to please those above them. It’s not a good system, we’ve just been conditioned to believe that it’s good through propaganda and campfire ghost stories of other economic systems.

Mfs in America will say capitalism is the only system that works, but won’t allow socialist systems fail on their own.

US forces have held Latin American farmers at gun point for labor organizing and have overthrown democratically elected socialist leaders and placed capitalist lapdogs in power that let private enterprise run wild, then point to instability in those countries as a problem caused by socialism. Makes sense.