tbf its a lot harder for female artists to appeal to male fans on a broad level than vice versa

i love usher but if we’re comparing both of their albums that dropped this year….

Men love Aaliyah, Sade Erykah, Lauryn Brandy etc

It’s all about the content.

Beyoncés music leans so feminist heavy it feels like it’s meant for men to not want to listen to it

Like it was engineered to turn men off to it

maybe some exceptions but surely its safe to say those artists' male fans aren't anywhere near the level of the legions of female fans of artists like MJ and Prince. im not saying its impossible just that the big male (pop) artist tend to have an easier time overall appealing to women

i think you have a point with the content tho

man you niggas just be waffling so hard on here man lol

prince and stevie don’t belong in this conversation at all because they are in an echelon entirely above like idek why those are the artists you chose lmfao like you’re grouping great musicians with pop stars, big difference. shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the stakes tbh. mj though? sure why not. not talking sales/commercial prowess here either, i’m talking about musicianship and artistry

yes. they’re talents that we won’t get again for years to come, that goes for Beyoncé. when she gives up music there will be huge shoes to fill.

well if we’re talking about artistry even prince and stevie weren’t putting out great albums like renaissance and cowboy carter 25+ years into their career

just throwing that out there

Idk if this is valid but R&B is possibly one of the most prolific genres. It's been sampled by many and many of it's artists have blended into Pop. I feel like we take this genre for granted these days

So many powerhouse artists have their orgins in here. Including the ones that are mentioned in this thread

Nah she hard tho

F*** no

op look up the writing credits on the albums of the artists you named vs any of beyonce's albums

No… Beyonce’s album catalog simply isn’t good enough. It’s not even close to Michael/Prince/Stevie level.

Performance and eras wise she absolutely deserves to be a part of the conversation.

lol Prince and Stevie had such insanely mind boggling and untouchable peak runs to where it doesn’t matter.

No, her albums don’t measure up to those artists. Those artists were around for the peak of music and created timeless classics.
R. Kelly might have a better discography than Bey if we’re being honest.

She’s a all time great performer though.

Thread title still so crazy

Why is the former boy band member up there with Prince and Stevie..

yes for performing but not in the convo with MJ, elvis , beatles for catalog

lol no

I hate that this was even asked. She's nowhere close to the talent of the others. She's just a machine..

she's a tier below prince, mj, stevie etc

I wanna say yes but realistically nah

wow delusional thread

hell no

She not touching R. Kelly, who is definitely up there with the ones mentioned but I think she is in his hemisphere somewhere so close.