Don Makaveli

3y

Even a lot of white trap fans seem to treat it as some kind of minstrel show. Look at trap lore ross and adam22

slimreapercantrap

3y

ngl i dont think earl would be pissed off if someone said he was better than don toliver. it's also pretty funny that u just treat it as objective fact that earl's music is less enjoyable.

hot take, i don't think there's a huge correlation between music taste and the quality of a person. For example, there's plenty of carti fans who are s***ty and plenty of carti fans who are cool ppl. Same could be said for all the artists listed.

im sure there's racist piece of s*** "hip-hop heads" who don't care about black people like that and normal chill "hip-hop heads" who do care about black people like that. just like with any other genre.

raph88

3y

Dons music is less focused on the lyrical content and is more casual listener friendly so yes nigga, Don Tolivers music is more enjoyable

i am a bigger fan of Earl but as i said, both of them are opposite poles of rap music and this is not how comparisons or "hot takes" should work bruh

raph88

3y

Dons music is less focused on the lyrical content and is more casual listener friendly so yes nigga, Don Tolivers music is more enjoyable

i am a bigger fan of Earl but as i said, both of them are opposite poles of rap music and this is not how comparisons or "hot takes" should work bruh

SegaDreamFlash

3y

It was f***in insane cuz literally all the artists niggas said dont get play in the club are all niggas I heard get play.

@Antidote seen this video I had of people in the club moshing to "Alright" by Kendrick s*** was hilarious

Lord187x

3y

I was born in Mexico, came to the U.S. became affiliated with Sureños as that is what I had to do as a Latino in the U.S. and now live in one of the most affluent towns in the U.S. after that teenager life.

When rappers like Jay-Z replaced your real father and showed you the way to success with Hip-Hop I will forever love Black People for creating such culture and the Latino's that had a hand in it. And I will forever protect and spread Hip-Hop culture in a positive light.

The culture of turning nothing into something. That's amazing.

Don Makaveli

3y

Even a lot of white trap fans seem to treat it as some kind of minstrel show. Look at trap lore ross and adam22

raph88

3y

Y'all know what i'm talking about. All the Kanye, Kendrick, BROCKHAMPTON, Frank Ocean, Childish Gambino, Tyler the Creator, MF DOOM, Earl Sweatshirt, Death Grips, JPEGMAFIA, fantano watching white niggas.

Yesterday, i seen one of them on twitter saying "Earl Sweatshirt > Don Toliver" and it really got me questioning:

Did this person even realize how much Earl would hate him for comparing two opposite poles of rap music just to d***ride his lyrical focused and less enjoyable music?

Do such white boys even learn anything from the music they listen to? These mfs are always listening to Earl and Kendrick rapping about black issues and sending love to the black community but proceed to treat our music like it's Pokemon cards.

They be thinking they superior for listening to said rappers and experimental s*** and give all kinds of disrespect to trap and the "generic" rap music, not understanding that hip-hop can be diverse and have different target audiences (just like every other genre), like straight up, they treat our music like it's Pokemon cards or sum.

This has to mean something bruh, i feel like these mfs don't care about black people like that and only listen to this music cuz it sounds good to them and to brag about their music taste without these messages doing any impact on the way they should treat our art.

What do y'all think?

Pls tell me i'm not crazy for saying this, I've had this feeling for too long.

notbrock

3y

As a white person who loves hip hop I’ll try and give you my own personal story. I don’t know if you even give a f*** but I can see this s***s kinda weighing on you and all we can do is have some kind of a discussion. I can’t speak on other white people or what they think tho

I grew up in a mostly white area. It wasn’t an upper middle class suburb, It was a straight trailer park/white trash kinda area. There was d**** everywhere and I think the poverty rate is close to 30%. I grew up in a broken home and lived with my grandma most of my life. When I first started getting into hip hop I was 12 or 13 years old and I found a lot of the music I was hearing I could relate to on some level (mostly 90s hip hop at the time). D****, Poverty, Broken homes, and Violence (not the level of violence of somewhere like Detroit but still violence) were all major things in my life the same way they were with all these dudes I was hearing rap. It made me respect and have sympathy for a majority of black people in America, They were going through the same s*** as me but in a lot of cases much much worse. And it breaks my heart seeing any child go through that

I will never view black artists that are really from those kind of places as some kind minstrel show I can comfortably watch from my phone because I know what they’re going through. You can find me in multiple threads on here talking about this topic because even tho I can never feel the same way you do, It does really hurt me too

Imo the white kids that watch fantano and stan JPEGMAFIA are far more harmless than the white kids that pretend to be black online. The ones who only listen to trap rappers because that’s what they think being black is. Those are the ones that perpetuate stereotypes and turn the poverty and violence in black areas into some kind of weird entertainment

Once again idk if you even give a f*** about my opinion on it but that’s all I can add to the discussion

insertcoolnamehere

3y

Seeing the posts @op be eurostepping versus the ones he replying to makes this thread 1000x hilarious lol.

raph88

3y

wym

insertcoolnamehere

3y

Like the white hip hop heads that be fetishizing black drill music aint just as bad if not worse. Considering ppl actually dying

Especially when a good portion of the “lol slide 4 von” comments come from white people lol

raph88

3y

i know this, both sides annoy me tbh

OMEGA

3y

Hate to break it to ya @op

But white people dont listen to rap music to "connect" to black people.

White people listen to rap music for same reason why people listen to rock music, or pop music, edm or reggaton music or any genre of music

Because it sounds good and makes em feel good. Same reason why we watch movies or play video games. Im not playing assassins creed to connect with ancient times middle eastern culture.

A person's character is not tied to their musical taste. You are either a good person or you are not.