cyclops

12mo

The collapse of the liberal media is inevitable

NobodyWins

12mo

I speak for EVERYONE when I say we want James Corden back

RASIE

12mo

It's not acceptable at all. All derision does is further alienate them and reinforces those opinions. And the same applies going in the other political direction. Even blanketing a vague group as "extremists" is a closed-off approach to discussion, and you and I aren't even actually discussing anyone in particular.

Who cares if someone's political opinions enable bigotry and harm? The reality is that a lot of those people aren't concious of that idea because they don't think that way to begin with. And when you approach them with that accusation, of course they are going to be defensive and the conversation will go absolutely nowhere before it even starts. The sad part is that the vast majority of people that get called "extremists" (which is has become a meaningless word, see: "fascist") actually have a chunk of overlap with worker-first left movements regarding their wants and needs. But they have been condescended and dismissed so much by liberals and radlibs that they don't think commonality between the two exists.

And I'm talking about actual, face to face conversations. Not on the internet/social media where most conversations are between bots and paid actors working in military cyber divisions.

RASIE

12mo

Thank god. End all of them and blacklist the hosts from ever working anywhere for the rest of their lives.

Conan is the only host and show with even a shred of entertainment value and integrity. But i would gladly sacrifice him if it meant all other late night talk shows ended asap.

NobodyWins

12mo

I speak for EVERYONE when I say we want James Corden back

greedy

12mo

Craig Ferguson >>>>

Smacked Voodoo

12mo

They should've never ended The Arsenio Hall Show

rustcohlestan2

12mo

yeah i did cause that sentence is honestly the most c***ass s*** ive seen on here in a minute. even by your standards

this is not an alt

12mo

When did talkshow hosts stop having serious guests/being funny?

herald

12mo

poster child is a reach but the elitism / condescension stuff is fair. on the other hand, i disagree about there being no empathy when his show is most apt at giving thorough, pointed critique toward political entities and edifying the general public on lesser publicized issues compared to his other half baked liberal peers.

there also comes a point when coddling extremists who deny presented facts is no longer effective, particularly when they're peddling opinions that enable bigotry and harm. derision becomes acceptable in that context

rustcohlestan2

12mo

Who cares if someone's political opinions enable bigotry and harm?

excuse me?

RASIE

12mo

He's the poster child of the condescending tone that has completely taken over modern political and social discourse — aka "my sports team is better than yours" narratives. Never wrong. Never conceding. Always correct. Yay for me but nay for thee. Zero empathy.

It's brainrot circle jerk garbage that has done nothing but enable the already embarrassing state of discussion about pretty much anything. The concept of actually understanding others who disagree is extinct, and Oliver has been a champion of that.

internet buddy

12mo

Arsenio ended it himself because black people were calling him and Uncle Tom and non-black people were calling him an angry black man

Slingshot

12mo

Colbert always had the best musical guests smh

RASIE

12mo

It's not acceptable at all. All derision does is further alienate them and reinforces those opinions. And the same applies going in the other political direction. Even blanketing a vague group as "extremists" is a closed-off approach to discussion, and you and I aren't even actually discussing anyone in particular.

Who cares if someone's political opinions enable bigotry and harm? The reality is that a lot of those people aren't concious of that idea because they don't think that way to begin with. And when you approach them with that accusation, of course they are going to be defensive and the conversation will go absolutely nowhere before it even starts. The sad part is that the vast majority of people that get called "extremists" (which is has become a meaningless word, see: "fascist") actually have a chunk of overlap with worker-first left movements regarding their wants and needs. But they have been condescended and dismissed so much by liberals and radlibs that they don't think commonality between the two exists.

And I'm talking about actual, face to face conversations. Not on the internet/social media where most conversations are between bots and paid actors working in military cyber divisions.

insertcoolnamehere

12mo

White liberals like @RASIE always trying to reach across the table while the other side smacks their hand away and then wonder why they keep losing

rustcohlestan2

12mo

yeah i did cause that sentence is honestly the most c***ass s*** ive seen on here in a minute. even by your standards

internet buddy

12mo

Just so we're clear, you're right and any position against yours has little to stand on. Those who act like far-left extremism of economic equality and an end to discrimination being the same as far-right extremism which wants to eliminate entire races and identities are completely full of f***ing bullshit.