We’ll be fine. We have Baby, the new Wayne lyrically. We have Roddy and Gunna, the new Thugs. We have Don, the new Travis. We have Keem, the new Kendrick. We have Jack, the new pop/Drake-ish rapper. We have Lil Nas, the queer representation and pop star that rap needed. We have Meg, a woman who goes hard. The state of rap is in a good place rn.
Ain’t no way you believe the bullshit you just typed. Lil baby will never be half the artist Wayne is. I f*** with don heavy but he doesn’t have the hits. Lmao you talking bout lil nas x and Meg the stallion, you gotta be on the spectrum or sum
The big dogs of the previous generation (Kendrick, Drake, and JCole) are aging and reaching the endpoints of their career arcs. Out of the new generation of rap, there is no one that comes close to leading the game like Drake or the other two on the massive international scale that they have. Lil Durk and Lil Baby are capped because of their lack of genuine versatility (ex. lil baby or durk cannot make a dancehall song that won’t sound like a reach). They are trying to find that next huge movement (again Durk, Baby, Cordae come to mind) but I don’t think they can be nearly as multi-faceted and rap itself has become way too fragmented with all these sub-genres. Will there ever be like a Drake, Kanye, Hov level rapper ever again? If you think there could, what would he even sound like? Everything under the sun has basically be done already and in this TikTok era clones are at an all time high.
Been saying this. Hip-Hop is like Jazz in the sense that it’s not going anywhere but I think it’s way past it’s prime. Big, Pac, Nas, Jay, Kanye, Eminem, Wayne, Drake, Kendrick, Cole was peak Hip-Hop. 20 year golden age of goat rap roughly from 94’-14’ give or take a few years. Never getting legends on that level again.
I think people will always rap but the fanbase will get older and older to the point that in 20 years or so going to a hip-hop concert will be more associated with the 40+ crowd like Jazz and Neo soul is now. New artist will be older and older. Look at Griselda blowing up in their 30s. Hip-hop really ain’t for young people anymore. At least traditional hip-hop. I think Carti started something with WLR. That s*** like a whole nother genre. I can see kids being into that kinda s*** for the foreseeable future. Carti next album might be huge tbh.
And new SoundCloud generation is terrible. All of them seem inauthentic (think sofaygo, kankan, ken carson, yeat) with their flashing lean and guns. They remind you of those kids that were in band in high school but wanted to act street/cool after graduating lol.
we just seen that already tho with keef and drill in 11-12 and with carti uno fauni in 14-15 so it’s not gonna hit the same
oh and of course the 3 next superstars of this era all died early so that also has to do with it as well
XXX, Pop and..?
juice
Can’t believe I forgot about him.
Crazy how Kid Laroi straight up usurped his fanbase
Drakeo was leading the new LA with Remble and Bluebucksclan also
yep not to mention shoreline breakup
@op mad on the internet
We need a lyrical rapper than can make a hit
That’s just not how the rap climate works now. You can be a lyrical dude all you want,your just gonna have to dumb it down and get with the program like Vince did. Rappers use to be able to make hits while staying true to themselves but that era is gone now.
I hate to say it but the best candidate right now for a Drake/Cole/Kendrick type of career is Jack
Jack Harlow is not a light skin nigga. He is white.
Edit: This was in response to a now deleted post calling Jack Harlow a light skin nigga.
gotta expose the user
The biggest difference between rap now and the past is that the rappers and labels in the past purposefully had a "pass the torch" business model in which the previous rap stars would sign or help promote newer acts who had the potential to become as big and successful as them. This helped to keep the game evolving and helping establish different identities.
Today's model is more DIY and Internet/Streaming based which is beneficial in many ways but has also contributed to the mainstream getting stagnant because now there are no more professionally built dynasties or label crews carving out their own lanes/identities and blowing up with a set of artists or sounds that makes them different from everyone else in the game. This is evident in the lack of rap groups and collectives as well.
Remember when niggas used to debate Young Money vs GOOD Music vs MMG on the old KTT? Or ASAP Mob vs. Taylor Gang? Lowkey proves my point. The Internet/Streaming model was supposed to give us more creativity and fresh sounds but niggas underestimate how much conformity and clout chasing there is on the Internet. Or how any song can get tons of streams just from memes like Cole foretold on "A Lot."
The current model is basically mainstream rappers focusing on buzz more than legacy. Buzz = Short term. Legacy = Long term. The Indie hip hop scene is still strong as ever though.
Ain’t no way you believe the bullshit you just typed. Lil baby will never be half the artist Wayne is. I f*** with don heavy but he doesn’t have the hits. Lmao you talking bout lil nas x and Meg the stallion, you gotta be on the spectrum or sum
i was willing to have a discussion with you but I don’t f*** with a******s who make fun of people with mental disabilities
The biggest difference between rap now and the past is that the rappers and labels in the past purposefully had a "pass the torch" business model in which the previous rap stars would sign or help promote newer acts who had the potential to become as big and successful as them. This helped to keep the game evolving and helping establish different identities.
Today's model is more DIY and Internet/Streaming based which is beneficial in many ways but has also contributed to the mainstream getting stagnant because now there are no more professionally built dynasties or label crews carving out their own lanes/identities and blowing up with a set of artists or sounds that makes them different from everyone else in the game. This is evident in the lack of rap groups and collectives as well.
Remember when niggas used to debate Young Money vs GOOD Music vs MMG on the old KTT? Or ASAP Mob vs. Taylor Gang? Lowkey proves my point. The Internet/Streaming model was supposed to give us more creativity and fresh sounds but niggas underestimate how much conformity and clout chasing there is on the Internet. Or how any song can get tons of streams just from memes like Cole foretold on "A Lot."
The current model is basically mainstream rappers focusing on buzz more than legacy. Buzz = Short term. Legacy = Long term. The Indie hip hop scene is still strong as ever though.
I agree 100%. Currently it seems like the old guard is hating on the new comers because a lot of them did it on their own and don’t want to sign with the old niggas. Since they can’t get a piece of the pie, why would they pass the torch? (Examples: XXX, Drakeo)