Many of these same employers overworked people last year with no vaccine, weak precautions and were fully willing to let their employees die. So it is understandable why they are untrusting. With already such a trash job market this will just lead to the unvaccinated getting jobs where they can be unvaccinated or either way just test weekly as we really should have been doing for all since beginning of the year if we really cared about the spread.

There are many steps we would take that we are not if this was truly about "keeping people safe"

Imagine losing your job because you dont want to take the 5th booster shot

They gonna "keep people safe" because a more sick and contaminated environment means less employees. Which leads to s*** service. Which leads to less customers. Which leads to less money. Which is the only thing they genuinely care about, but in order to get that, they'll have to do something in order to provide some form of peace of mind to employees and customers.

Issa very simple flowchart of events.

lol if they are under 100 employee or their company chooses they can easily mitigate this or just get tested weekly. AGAIN TEST WEEKLY SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE RATHER THAN JUST CLICK A BUTTON ON SCREEN SAYING "I DONT GOT COVID" BEFORE YOU CLOCK IN

I can’t complain too much because I can taste and smell but it’s just not 100% and sometimes i’ll still smell that odd smell that gets reported. I feel bad for the people that lost it for a whole year or so

Yeah got one friend who loves food and still gets cravings even though she cant taste she going on like 8 or 9 months. long covid effects. she vaccinated now and got kids. S*** wild to me that all these vaccine arguments happening but very little on how to reverse or heal long covid from people who caught it before a vaccine existed who were social distancing and doing everything reasonably right

Shoulda, coulda, woulda.

Go run it by employers then.

lol its more like run it by the government.....

especially when many vaccinated take less or no precautions or never get tested. I can again as I have said in this thread multiple times only control my actions and my own life.

Which leads me back to my initial point.

Your body, your choice. Their company, their choice.

Swear I wasn't getting at anything too complicated

I mean I never really debated "fair" or "unfair" I get your point why a company makes their own decisions but a company isnt really making their own decisions if its a mandate . That is the main point. If a company decided to do so on their own volition isnt really the discussion because they had all year to make their own decisions

"You know what? Anti-vaxxers do have their freedom of choice in getting vaccinated or not.

Schools, companies, restaurants, etc also have the freedom of choice in allowing unvaxxed students, employees, customers into their establishment.

So why are anti-vaxxers saying that is unfair that they are getting fired from work for not being vaccinated? Is it not the employers' choice in whether or not to allow unvaxxed individuals into their place of business? Are they wrong for choosing to keep the rest of their staff and clientele safe? Does "freedom of choice" not apply for them? Isn't that unfair?"

it isnt a choice by schools, companies, restaurants its a mandate in most of those cases that you listed. Of course for a good reason but its a mandate at least on the employee side because they have over 100 people. As for if they have customers or people that visit including parents picking up their children being required to be vaccinated that is a choice but a choice that I dont see them making

Which is why I am confused on your point especially in the case of students where many age ranges arent approved to be vaccinated yet

I'm not reading this b.

A Mandate isnt a choice

People that protect and stand with the corrupt government should be shipped to the sun

lol its about balance can critique the government and how they have handled the pandemic without being antivax.

Like a Mandate is not a choice all they got to read

Nothing else

Yes many of the businesses agree with the mandate but those that don't thats not a choice

we can argue or discuss whether the Mandate should be further or lesser reaching but its not a choice

we ain't talking whether AMC lets people unvaccinated in(which they do everywhere but LA which kicks in November) but again thats not even a choice thats a law

many businesses in my area including concert venues and bars have their own "we need to see vaccination no test or we allow test within 72 " hours thats a choice

but much of what people are talking about in this thread are laws which involve OSHA

by definition not a choice

This booster is kicking my f***ing ass rn

Headache and fatigue like my first two but now I got this pain throughout my legs.

uhhh which brand bucko?

this dont sound like no moderna hive

It’s Pfizer

Was the only one available when I got my initial dose

MODERNA HIVE

but I aint trying to get booster to be honest. Second shot is end of month or so and planning a day to hibernate. I aint trying to see booster side effects

Nah with the time you’re getting it I would hope that the virus continues to decrease to a point where it’s not a prevalent day to day issue. So then nobody would need to get it if they don’t want to

thank goodness lol thats part of why I waited just to get confirmation I wouldn't need a booster because me coming in every 6 months not realistic

How are the COVID pills looking like?