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  • Jan 16, 2021
    dawg

    My dad passed away...

    My condolences brother.

    Stay strong.

  • Jan 16, 2021
    dawg

    My dad passed away...

    My condolences,stay strong

  • Jan 16, 2021
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    Rigardo Pepi

    About 20 elderly people in nursing homes, 80+, died in Norway from side effects of taking the Pfizer vaccine

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/23-die-in-norway-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/

    Some Pfizer spokeperson came out later and said something to the effect of not having as many tests subjects that fit the elderly and frail billing. Not trying to sway anyone one way or the other, but this is why it’s important to see the results of trials before you make your decision

    What

  • Jan 16, 2021
    kiddash3r

    What

    ...

  • Jan 16, 2021
    Rigardo Pepi

    About 20 elderly people in nursing homes, 80+, died in Norway from side effects of taking the Pfizer vaccine

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/23-die-in-norway-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/

    Some Pfizer spokeperson came out later and said something to the effect of not having as many tests subjects that fit the elderly and frail billing. Not trying to sway anyone one way or the other, but this is why it’s important to see the results of trials before you make your decision

    Oh my f***ing god

  • Jan 16, 2021
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    Sadly, even the flu vaccine can lead to neurological disorders, paralysis and death, albeit not in a large enough number of people to dissuade society from encouraging mass inoculation:

    nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/influenza/vaccine-injury.aspx

    One downside of limited trials conducted in tight time windows is that not every population is going to be thoroughly represented. This news is very unfortunate to hear, but I'm still getting my shots the moment I can.

  • Jan 16, 2021
    dawg

    My dad passed away...

    Sorry to hear that 🙁🙁🙁

  • Jan 16, 2021
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    Rigardo Pepi

    About 20 elderly people in nursing homes, 80+, died in Norway from side effects of taking the Pfizer vaccine

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/23-die-in-norway-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/

    Some Pfizer spokeperson came out later and said something to the effect of not having as many tests subjects that fit the elderly and frail billing. Not trying to sway anyone one way or the other, but this is why it’s important to see the results of trials before you make your decision

    Thank you for the information.

  • Jan 16, 2021
    AtTheEquinox

    Thank you for the information.

    Dudes acting like I’m trying to dissuade them from getting it lol

    I’ve seen more deaths reported but I couldn’t verify them. Just keep an eye out for any serious adverse effect cases and see if you share any similar traits.

  • Jan 16, 2021
    Noir

    Sadly, even the flu vaccine can lead to neurological disorders, paralysis and death, albeit not in a large enough number of people to dissuade society from encouraging mass inoculation:

    https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/influenza/vaccine-injury.aspx

    One downside of limited trials conducted in tight time windows is that not every population is going to be thoroughly represented. This news is very unfortunate to hear, but I'm still getting my shots the moment I can.

    As you should

    If you are young and don’t have any underlying health conditions, you have an infinitesimally small chance of dying from it

  • Jan 17, 2021
    dawg

    My dad passed away...

    ♥️🙏

  • Jan 17, 2021
    dawg

    My dad passed away...

    Sending my condolences, RIP

  • Jan 17, 2021
    dawg

    My dad passed away...

    I’m sorry to hear that dude..wishing you the best

  • Jan 17, 2021
    Rigardo Pepi

    About 20 elderly people in nursing homes, 80+, died in Norway from side effects of taking the Pfizer vaccine

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/23-die-in-norway-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/

    Some Pfizer spokeperson came out later and said something to the effect of not having as many tests subjects that fit the elderly and frail billing. Not trying to sway anyone one way or the other, but this is why it’s important to see the results of trials before you make your decision


    bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-16/norway-vaccine-fatalities-among-people-75-and-older-rise-to-29

    Something to keep in mind

  • Jan 17, 2021
    dawg

    My dad passed away...

    Me he Rest In Peace. Bless and let me know if you need to talk

  • Jan 17, 2021
    dawg

    My dad passed away...

    Terribly sorry to hear that, I wish you and yours the best.

  • Jan 18, 2021
    lucky star

    My aunt’s husband started having covid symptoms Sunday and she knowingly visited everyone in my extended family since that same day including my aunt going through chemo. Her husband and her household just came back positive. I’m feeling fine, but I’ve had body and muscle aches for a few days now. Getting a rapid test in an hour

    F this aunt

    Update: the same uncle who came out positive ended up getting hospitalized and it’s been getting bad :/ he’s in the ICU now hooked up to the tubes. I feel awful at the thought of anything happening to him. My aunt doesn’t work and he was the only source of income. They have 2 kids. An 8 year old girl and an 11 year old boy

  • dawg

    My dad passed away...

    Condolences bro. Prayers to you and yours stay strong

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    Jan 19, 2021
    arrrg
    https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1351183869546999809

    full circle

  • Jan 19, 2021

  • Jan 19, 2021

    Great article from NYT:

    nytimes.com/2021/01/18/briefing/donald-trump-pardon-phil-spector-coronavirus-deaths.html#click=https://t.co/7Te4p4aR4y

    Early in the pandemic, many health experts — in the U.S. and around the world — decided that the public could not be trusted to hear the truth about masks. Instead, the experts spread a misleading message, discouraging the use of masks.

    Their motivation was mostly good. It sprung from a concern that people would rush to buy high-grade medical masks, leaving too few for doctors and nurses. The experts were also unsure how much ordinary masks would help.

    But the message was still a mistake.

    It confused people. (If masks weren’t effective, why did doctors and nurses need them?) It delayed the widespread use of masks (even though there was good reason to believe they could help). And it damaged the credibility of public health experts.

    “When people feel as though they may not be getting the full truth from the authorities, snake-oil sellers and price gougers have an easier time,” the sociologist Zeynep Tufekci wrote early last year.

    Now a version of the mask story is repeating itself — this time involving the vaccines. Once again, the experts don’t seem to trust the public to hear the full truth.

    This issue is important and complex enough that I’m going to make today’s newsletter a bit longer than usual. If you still have questions, don’t hesitate to email me at themorning@​nytimes.com.

    ‘Ridiculously encouraging’ Right now, public discussion of the vaccines is full of warnings about their limitations: They’re not 100 percent effective. Even vaccinated people may be able to spread the virus. And people shouldn’t change their behavior once they get their shots.

    These warnings have a basis in truth, just as it’s true that masks are imperfect. But the sum total of the warnings is misleading, as I heard from multiple doctors and epidemiologists last week.

    “It’s driving me a little bit crazy,” Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown School of Public Health, told me.

    “We’re underselling the vaccine,” Dr. Aaron Richterman, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Pennsylvania, said.

    “It’s going to save your life — that’s where the emphasis has to be right now,” Dr. Peter Hotez of the Baylor College of Medicine said.

    The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are “essentially 100 percent effective against serious disease,” Dr. Paul Offit, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, said. “It’s ridiculously encouraging.”

    The details Here’s my best attempt at summarizing what we know:

    The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines — the only two approved in the U.S. — are among the best vaccines ever created, with effectiveness rates of about 95 percent after two doses. That’s on par with the vaccines for chickenpox and measles. And a vaccine doesn’t even need to be so effective to reduce cases sharply and crush a pandemic.

    If anything, the 95 percent number understates the effectiveness, because it counts anyone who came down with a mild case of Covid-19 as a failure. But turning Covid into a typical flu — as the vaccines evidently did for most of the remaining 5 percent — is actually a success. Of the 32,000 people who received the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine in a research trial, do you want to guess how many contracted a severe Covid case? One.

    Although no rigorous study has yet a***yzed whether vaccinated people can spread the virus, it would be surprising if they did. “If there is an example of a vaccine in widespread clinical use that has this selective effect — prevents disease but not infection — I can’t think of one!” Dr. Paul Sax of Harvard has written in The New England Journal of Medicine. (And, no, exclamation points are not common in medical journals.) On Twitter, Dr. Monica Gandhi of the University of California, San Francisco, argued: “Please be assured that YOU ARE SAFE after vaccine from what matters — disease and spreading.”

    The risks for vaccinated people are still not zero, because almost nothing in the real world is zero risk. A tiny percentage of people may have allergic reactions. And I’ll be eager to see what the studies on post-vaccination spread eventually show. But the evidence so far suggests that the vaccines are akin to a cure.

    Offit told me we should be greeting them with the same enthusiasm that greeted the polio vaccine: “It should be this rallying cry.”

    The costs of negativity Why are many experts conveying a more negative message?

    Again, their motivations are mostly good. As academic researchers, they are instinctively cautious, prone to emphasizing any uncertainty. Many may also be nervous that vaccinated people will stop wearing masks and social distancing, which in turn could cause unvaccinated people to stop as well. If that happens, deaths would soar even higher.

    But the best way to persuade people to behave safely usually involves telling them the truth. “Not being completely open because you want to achieve some sort of behavioral public health goal — people will see through that eventually,” Richterman said. The current approach also feeds anti-vaccine skepticism and conspiracy theories.

    After asking Richterman and others what a better public message might sound like, I was left thinking about something like this:

    We should immediately be more aggressive about mask-wearing and social distancing because of the new virus variants. We should vaccinate people as rapidly as possible — which will require approving other Covid vaccines when the data justifies it.

    People who have received both of their vaccine shots, and have waited until they take effect, will be able to do things that unvaccinated people cannot — like having meals together and hugging their grandchildren. But until the pandemic is defeated, all Americans should wear masks in public, help unvaccinated people stay safe and contribute to a shared national project of saving every possible life.

  • Jan 19, 2021
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  • Jan 19, 2021
    arrrg
    https://twitter.com/djbaskin/status/1351370850239303684

  • Jan 19, 2021
    arrrg
    https://twitter.com/djbaskin/status/1351370850239303684

    My vaccine sponsored by BlueChew ®

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