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  • May 4, 2020
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    lets open everything back up so we can close it back down again 2 weeks from now

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    OUT OF ORDER

    The mortality rate is turning out to be around 0.3% instead of 3-4%

    Many new tests are showing the mortality rate to be much lower than everyone has thought.

    Here is some evidence for this: https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-testing-undercounting-covid-19-cases-likely/

    The problems that caused this are three-fold:

    1. The tests themselves gave a lot of false positives and false negatives. The PCR testing technology is known to be unreliable, yet is treated by media and some hospitals as if it is highly reliable. Now the antibody test is available, which shows if someone has ever been exposed to the virus, instead of only testing if it's actively in your body like the PCR test does (because it's an RNA-matching test).

    2. Because of the limited number of tests available, only people who had died or near-death were tested. This caused hugely inflated mortality rates, because the samples were not random. Random samples were done on homeless populations, where 36% tested positive yet zero showed symptoms (https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/04/15/hmmm-36-boston-homeless-shelter-tested-positive-covid-19-vast-majority-without-symptoms/), and on maternity wards which also showed a large number of asymptomatic carriers. Once these results started coming out, it was clear that almost everyone has already had it.

    Which means that the mortality rate is far far lower than we've been hearing. Old calculations put it at 3-4%, but the newer and more comprehensive test studies show that it's more like 0.3% because so many have already had it but weren't counted as corona survivors because they were asymptomatic or had few symptoms, so they never got diagnosed in the first place.

    3. The media and governmental reaction was another cause of the over-reaction. The fact the virus was apparently slow-spreading gave companies and governments time to react, and created this first worldwide quarantine situation. This amplified fears, and also created an atmosphere where the mortality rate had to be 3-4% to justify all the lockdowns. So for a long time the media and even medical establishments were trying to justify this very high number, when in reality after true random sampling it has proven to be much lower. Which means the lockdowns were not necessary.

    The idea was to "flatten the curve" so hospitals would not get overwhelmed. However the curve has been flat for weeks now, and the hospitals are half-empty. They're permanently laying off staff at many hospitals because of how slow business has been. I have confirmed this with a friend I have who works an a front-line ER doctor with covid cases.

    Finally it seems even some hospitals are attributing deaths to covid that may otherwise have been classified as pneumonia. Look at the huge lack of pneumonia deaths this year so far: https://i.stack.imgur.com/3ehhg.png

    The virus is still deadly, and definitely is causing problems (14,000 deaths a week in the US), but the intensity of the virus was vastly over-stated due to a combination of factors as described above.

    also my thread about bill gates was closed by a moderator ...why? cause i said that the virus isnt as dangerous as the media wants us to think ? well yes all the data is showing that.

    im being censored on ktt2 now? this is ridiculous.
    if i want to spread the message that bill gates is laughing about the crashing economy then why cant i do that here ???
    and sorry for my grammar im from germany.

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    This is pretty spicy. And peer reviewed!

    news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-scientists-hail-groundbreaking-discovery-of-antibody-which-prevents-infection-11982809

    Scientists have discovered an antibody which prevents the coronavirus from infecting human cells in "groundbreaking research" which could lead to the development of new treatments.

    Building on research into the SARS coronavirus, scientists from Utrect University in the Netherlands, as well as the Erasmus Medical Centre and the company Harbour BioMed (HBM), have identified a potential method of neutralising COVID-19.

    They discovered that an antibody which prevents the SARS virus from infecting human cells could also block the novel coronavirus from infecting human cells too, according a peer reviewed study published on Monday in the journal Nature Communications.

    Testing their collection of antibodies on cultured human cells, researchers discovered one which binds to a specific part which is present in both SARS and the virus causing COVID-19.

    The discovery could offer an initial step towards developing a fully-human antibody to treat or prevent the disease, which has infected more then 3.5 million people worldwide, and led to more than 247,000 deaths.

    The neutralising antibody "has potential to alter the course of infection in the infected host, support virus clearance or protect an uninfected individual that is exposed to the virus," said Dr Berend-Jan Bosch, co-lead author on the study.

    Dr Frank Grosveld, the study's other co-lead author, said the discovery provided "a strong foundation for additional research to characterise this antibody and begin development as a potential COVID-19 treatment".

    "The antibody used in this work is 'fully human', allowing development to proceed more rapidly and reducing the potential for immune-related side effects," he added.

    The fully-human antibody is different from conventional therapeutic antibodies, which are often first developed in other species before being "humanised" so they can be transmitted to people.

    It was developed using Harbour BioMed's H2L2 transgenic mouse technology - effectively a mouse which has been genetically engineered to contain human genes, enabling researchers to develop "human" antibodies without testing them on living people.

    "This is groundbreaking research," said Dr Jingsong Wang, the chief executive of HBM.

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    Yesterday, Cali reported only 4.9% of their 28,000+ tests were positive. A few weeks ago, we were averaging over 11% out of much smaller numbers of tests. We're getting healthier

  • May 4, 2020
    nxtlvlart
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGC5sGdz4kg

    also my thread about bill gates was closed by a moderator ...why? cause i said that the virus isnt as dangerous as the media wants us to think ? well yes all the data is showing that.

    im being censored on ktt2 now? this is ridiculous.
    if i want to spread the message that bill gates is laughing about the crashing economy then why cant i do that here ???
    and sorry for my grammar im from germany.

    crinebrine

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    i know it's a monday but only 26 deaths in NL today

    really proud

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    Yoooo

    The growth rate for new deaths hit 1% yesterday for the first time since February 26th. That is the only other day at 1% on Worldometers' entire table, which goes back to January 23rd. Additionally, the number of new deaths has dropped for five days straight. That will likely change today with expanded reporting, but it's a good downward trend and visible to the naked eye on any graph.

    Anyone else remember February? Feels like a lifetime ago.

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    Sweden yesterday: 10 deaths
    Sweden today: 90 deaths

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    Yoooo

    The growth rate for new deaths hit 1% yesterday for the first time since February 26th. That is the only other day at 1% on Worldometers' entire table, which goes back to January 23rd. Additionally, the number of new deaths has dropped for five days straight. That will likely change today with expanded reporting, but it's a good downward trend and visible to the naked eye on any graph.

    Anyone else remember February? Feels like a lifetime ago.

    These are good signs.

    The number of infected people remained over 80,000 even at the weekend, but the death toll goes down. Countries are starting to test more, but epicentres like Russia report relatively few deaths.

    That will probably change, because Germany went the same route at the beginning (Mar 27: 6,933 new cases and 84 new deaths) and now the numbers are pretty balanced between new cases and new deaths.

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    These are good signs.

    The number of infected people remained over 80,000 even at the weekend, but the death toll goes down. Countries are starting to test more, but epicentres like Russia report relatively few deaths.

    That will probably change, because Germany went the same route at the beginning (Mar 27: 6,933 new cases and 84 new deaths) and now the numbers are pretty balanced between new cases and new deaths.

    I think it's eventually going to show up in the numbers that doctors are treating COVID-19 more appropriately as a virus that attacks the blood than a particularly bad respiratory illness. Coupled with more aggressive, efficient testing practices and new treatments that we find along the way, the CFR will drop significantly over time.

    What we're seeing now is most likely the result of milder cases being unearthed, as this graph shows:

    Despite the number of active cases climbing significantly, the number of severe and critical cases was identical yesterday to where it was April 12th. Isn't that crazy to think about? Despite everything going haywire, the world has the same number of people in ICU that it did 3 weeks ago.

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    One question: Were any of the mortality rate charts based off social distancing and stay at home guidelines or made for normal daily life

  • how come italy only saw change after 2 whole months of lockdown if the incubation period is 1-28 days

  • May 4, 2020

    remember when trump wanted to reopen by easter

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    Let's see what the numbers will look like in Spain tomorrow because they just had a national holiday.

  • May 4, 2020

    B**** ass Xi laughing his ass off somewhere smh

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    Before pandemic:

    After:

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    Please say a prayer for everyone effected by covid-19 today

  • May 4, 2020
    Vae

    lets open everything back up so we can close it back down again 2 weeks from now

    That’s literally what I predict here in Georgia, it’s looking like it’s gonna happen too

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    As of April 12, 2020, Shanghai, China’s financial hub, has reported 607 confirmed cases of COVID-19, while the Chinese capital of Beijing has reported 589 confirmed cases, according to statistics from China's National Health Commission published by state news agency Xinhua.

    How the f*** does the foundation of China's economy have less cases than my hometown? S*** is hours away from Wuhan. Some countries can't even deal with the fraction of the amount of people that are in China's 2 most important cities. China mitigating the woefulness and lying about it's numbers, country needs to be held accountable for this, f***ing ridiculous.

  • May 4, 2020

    Seeing conspiracy f*** heads talk about how the CDC halfed the number of deaths, but those numbers only counted February 1st to April 25th

    Half the deaths in America have happened in the last week

  • May 4, 2020
    RX Nigerian Pastor

    Please say a prayer for everyone effected by covid-19 today

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    We just had our deadliest day, and our “peak” was supposed to be weeks ago

    America is sooo f***ed for the summer.

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    Sixty 5

    We just had our deadliest day, and our “peak” was supposed to be weeks ago

    America is sooo f***ed for the summer.

    just wait till next winter

  • May 4, 2020
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    g6ntiana

    Let's see what the numbers will look like in Spain tomorrow because they just had a national holiday.

    Incubation period fam..

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    It’s so worrying seeing ppl think things are getting better , going out to hang with friends and states opening back up

    They aren’t. This thing is far from over, we are in a s*** storm right now with more and more states planning to open up by June.

    The American media wants Americans to think the situations in Europe are so much worse but Europe is well on their way to recovery, meanwhile we here in America are taking 1 step forward and 10 steps back

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