Niggas act like you can’t critique Wayne objectively lmao Nobody said he wasn’t a legend. But his album discography in comparison to some of the other greats ain’t exactly up there. On the flip side it’s only a handful of rappers that could rival Wayne’s hot streak as the top rapper and his influence and impact is bar none.
The Clipse album is just better.. and happened to sell more.
I agree with most of this.
That said, KTT2 often overdoes this because niggas here tend to live in the moment where the whole of Young Money is getting trashed online while the Clipse are deemed rap's new "saviors."
Wayne dropped a bad album 3 decades into his career. It's disappointing but not that mind blowing since many of Wayne's peers who debuted in the late 90's/early 00's are washed. I mean....Camron did a feature with Game 3 years ago that was so bad that Game sounded like a better Camron than him. At least Wayne can still spit and rap great when he's locked in.
And his mixtape catalog is still one of rap's best as well as the first 3 Carters being a great trilogy.
You guys can be happy for Clipse without the crazy Wayne disrespect going on in here
This place is literally just /r/hiphopheads now
Fr cause even if they did outsell him obviously with an album 1000% more and better marketed, when it comes to overall sales the clipse is dwarfed next to Wayne. They catching up barely.
Hov paid for those extra copies
HOV pays for anything that could remotely be considered anti–Young Money now, huh.
HOV pays for anything that could remotely be considered anti–Young Money now, huh.
Tbf he been paying it got made public now. He also forces stuff to leak ex: the meek beef w drake.
I’m confused. Why are people bringing up Wayne because Clipse album sold well first week?
Wayne didn’t cross my mind at all when I saw this lol
Haven’t the beef between them been over with? Dont get why people tryna rile Wayne fans up over this lol
Niggas act like you can’t critique Wayne objectively lmao Nobody said he wasn’t a legend. But his album discography in comparison to some of the other greats ain’t exactly up there. On the flip side it’s only a handful of rappers that could rival Wayne’s hot streak as the top rapper and his influence and impact is bar none.
The Clipse album is just better.. and happened to sell more.
Factual for the most part but the thing that I stress when it comes to Wayne’s catalog (and rapper catalogs in general) is that people tend to focus on his solo studio album discography and not his total output and I think that’s reductive
When we talk about Wayne’s catalog we should be talking about not only his 3 straight classic studio albums (C1-C3), but also his multiple classic mixtapes (easily the greatest mixtape rapper oat), and his albums as a member of the hot boys which are landmark southern rap projects. And that’s not even including his classic features that could add up to multiple projects by themselves (arguably the greatest feature rapper oat too)
I agree his studio albums have been disappointing since his prime but when you take ALL of that into consideration, his catalog is as legendary as anyones
wayne had 0 promo and probably no budget either
neither does drake from time to time but ... i'm sorry Wayne's album was Ass Juice... and Wayne don't care.... lol
Factual for the most part but the thing that I stress when it comes to Wayne’s catalog (and rapper catalogs in general) is that people tend to focus on his solo studio album discography and not his total output and I think that’s reductive
When we talk about Wayne’s catalog we should be talking about not only his 3 straight classic studio albums (C1-C3), but also his multiple classic mixtapes (easily the greatest mixtape rapper oat), and his albums as a member of the hot boys which are landmark southern rap projects. And that’s not even including his classic features that could add up to multiple projects by themselves (arguably the greatest feature rapper oat too)
I agree his studio albums have been disappointing since his prime but when you take ALL of that into consideration, his catalog is as legendary as anyones
I think that’s something that unfortunately happens to alot of rappers of that era. Mixtapes were social to the genre and culture than but ultimately get overlooked as mixtapes transitioned Into being considered basically albums or “projects”. I’ve said it before but yeah you can’t leave out the classic mixtapes and when discussing Wayne’s complete career and discography you have to consider it all.
Similar to the MJ discussion ITT when someone also brought up his input wit the Jackson 5. I personally believe C2 is up there with Lord Willin and HHNF. But it’s a quality over quantity thing for me when it comes to Wayne.
Nah bro.
Because Wayne dropped a bad album 3 decades into his career, we're supposed to act like he's WOAT and never dropped great music in his life.
This is KTT2. We don't do nuance here brother.
yall dramatic. nobody discredited his classics just bc his recent output been weak
112k for a rap group's (both niggas in their 40s and 50s) first album in 15 years.
I'm usually never acknowledging sales threads...but this actually says a lot about the landscape, what the audiences are looking for.
Like @Water_Giver said, there's younger "more popping" rappers that aren't selling this much 1st week.
I hope this trend continues. I’m over these post-2015 rappers that don’t know how to perform and don’t know how to write.
Good music won. Congrats to push and malice for one of the best rollouts in recent times
Niggas hyping up niggas that’s barely catching up. Wayne done ran laps around these boys heads decades ago.
wayne a legend. clipse are legends
we dont gotta do this
This s*** right here ^
C6 was ass bruh like embarrassingly bad for the GOAT
clipse dropped easily AOTY
Always been a Wayne stan, Clipse/Push fan and no matter the bullshit the better album absolutely won. So be it
You guys can be happy for Clipse without the crazy Wayne disrespect going on in here
This place is literally just /r/hiphopheads now
Wayne wanted to be the third Clipse member so bad back in the 2000s. F*** out of here.
Waynes last great project was almost a decade ago. Clipse just had a huge comeback. Who cares.
Actually is quite impressive, considering c6 has very few redeemable qualities Wayne was still able to sell 100k off his name alone
You guys can be happy for Clipse without the crazy Wayne disrespect going on in here
This place is literally just /r/hiphopheads now
Nah bro.
Because Wayne dropped a bad album 3 decades into his career, we're supposed to act like he's WOAT and never dropped great music in his life.
This is KTT2. We don't do nuance here brother.
“A” bad album.
He hasn’t dropped a good album in over a decade