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  • Jul 17, 2020
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    Versetti

    because only a dumbass karen would give a s*** about change.org petitions in the first place, and it's people like them who are coincidentally always mad at the same countries the US government is currently wanna f*** up

    develop critical thinking skills before you give patronizing advice to others. you contribute nothing to the discussion, so you're the clown.

    You sound ignorant

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    Scratchin Mamba

    The fact that other countries are siding with China over the US here has more to do with China being less predatory in their foreign policy and trade deals than the credibility of the claims being made about China.

    Who the hell is siding with China? Pakistan, Russia, Iran and North Korea

    Edit: And that f***boy Tedros from WHO

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    TopDawgKenny

    Who the hell is siding with China? Pakistan, Russia, Iran and North Korea

    Edit: And that f***boy Tedros from WHO

    Literally only Western countries are siding with the US lol

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Literally only Western countries are siding with the US lol

    So Japan is siding with China?

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    TopDawgKenny

    So Japan is siding with China?

    They weren't on either of that list, but post-WW2 Japan has had a very different relationship with the US than most other non-Western countries.

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    Scratchin Mamba

    They weren't on either of that list, but post-WW2 Japan has had a very different relationship with the US than most other non-Western countries.

    you said: "The fact that other countries are siding with China over the US"

    Again who is siding with China? Name them please...

    US, Vietnam ties have never been better
    asiatimes.com/2020/07/us-vietnam-ties-have-never-been-better

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    TopDawgKenny

    So Japan is siding with China?

    Bro people like him are why people who arent susceptible to western fear mongering concerning socialism and communism end up hating socialists/communist.

    When you end up shaking your ass every f***ing time to absolve literal s***hole countries, you look like a tool. Literal "It looks like Noam Chomsky was 3 statements from denying the Cambodian gencoide" tier

    "Oh bro, only western countries are siding with the US"

    ??? As opposed to f***ing North Korea, Russia, Nigeria (China is literally investing heavily in Africa), the UAE, etc...

    How stupid do you have to be to willingly make this comparison??? Utter lack of critical thinking to think the average person is going to side against Japan, New Zealand, etc for Russia, NK, China, etc.

    How do you possess such a low level of self awareness.

    The worst part is, how if I google this Uighur denialism s*** it all leads back to some communism reddit. Why the f*** are you caping for f***ing regimes this hard when you yourself dont even believe them to be communist??? Stop trying to have your cake and eat it too.

    Thats not @ you btw. Its at the clowns youre speaking with

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    hate this s*** feel like signing petitions won’t do anything either is there anything else we can do

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    TopDawgKenny

    you said: "The fact that other countries are siding with China over the US"

    Again who is siding with China? Name them please...

    US, Vietnam ties have never been better
    https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/us-vietnam-ties-have-never-been-better/

    There's literally a list on the previous page lol

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    Like imagine posting 50 countries and one of them is Duterte from the Philipines.

    Yeah bro, Ill trust Kim Jong Un, Putin, and Duterte over Trudeau and Merkel.

    The absolute nerve of some people

  • Jul 17, 2020
    KuntaKinte

    Bro people like him are why people who arent susceptible to western fear mongering concerning socialism and communism end up hating socialists/communist.

    When you end up shaking your ass every f***ing time to absolve literal s***hole countries, you look like a tool. Literal "It looks like Noam Chomsky was 3 statements from denying the Cambodian gencoide" tier

    "Oh bro, only western countries are siding with the US"

    ??? As opposed to f***ing North Korea, Russia, Nigeria (China is literally investing heavily in Africa), the UAE, etc...

    How stupid do you have to be to willingly make this comparison??? Utter lack of critical thinking to think the average person is going to side against Japan, New Zealand, etc for Russia, NK, China, etc.

    How do you possess such a low level of self awareness.

    The worst part is, how if I google this Uighur denialism s*** it all leads back to some communism reddit. Why the f*** are you caping for f***ing regimes this hard when you yourself dont even believe them to be communist??? Stop trying to have your cake and eat it too.

    Thats not @ you btw. Its at the clowns youre speaking with

    I don't deny the oppression of Uighurs in China? I even said that people siding with China over the US doesn't say anything about whether these claims are true or not lol.

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    KuntaKinte

    Like imagine posting 50 countries and one of them is Duterte from the Philipines.

    Yeah bro, Ill trust Kim Jong Un, Putin, and Duterte over Trudeau and Merkel.

    The absolute nerve of some people

    Of all 50 countries you pick those 3 leaders

    So disingenuous it's almost funny

  • Jul 17, 2020

    People are rly either Dengist apologist for the Chinese state or neolibs that think China is literally Nazi Germany 2.0 it seems lol

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    Scratchin Mamba

    There's literally a list on the previous page lol

    The list is a f***ing joke cmon bruh

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Of all 50 countries you pick those 3 leaders

    So disingenuous it's almost funny

    To be fair, the other world leaders siding with China aren’t exactly credible either

  • sace 👍
    Jul 17, 2020

    Yes, People’s Republic of China’s is Third German Reich

  • Jul 17, 2020
    TopDawgKenny

    The list is a f***ing joke cmon bruh

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    Enpax

    To be fair, the other world leaders siding with China aren’t exactly credible either

    Not trying to get into this but like I said the list literally has nothing to do with credibility of any claims or any leaders and everything to do with whether countries want to have better relations with the US or China.

  • Jul 17, 2020
    Scratchin Mamba

    Not trying to get into this but like I said the list literally has nothing to do with credibility of any claims or any leaders and everything to do with whether countries want to have better relations with the US or China.

    I know what you’re saying, I understand that China is a more favorable partner than the west for much of the third world. What I meant was there aren’t really any credible leaders on either side

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    I don't really what's going on, but I do know it better not be people tryna defend genocide

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    Smacked Voodoo

    I don't really what's going on, but I do know it better not be people tryna defend genocide

    It is lol, either that or denying it

  • Jul 17, 2020
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    Scratchin Mamba

    The fact that other countries are siding with China over the US here has more to do with China being less predatory in their foreign policy and trade deals than the credibility of the claims being made about China.

    it's also probably more like they just don't care since it's not being done expansively, the hard truth is that most cultures dont really care about this type of stuff as long as it doesnt reach outside the borders of the participating country. near unlimited self-determination isnt that weird or foreign of a concept to most countries; like, for example, you think Saudi Arabia isn't on board with countries wanting to do whatever tf they want? The culture gap in universalist global morality vs relative self-determination is really only a western-european concept. This doesn't mean they necessarily endorse or agree, just that they don't think any form of intervention or condemnation matters if it's domestic. This is one of those things which we haven't really figured out, the whole local vs global morality thing. Admittedly I think a lot of western people struggle with this too; wanting to be non-interventionalist but also wanting to assert morality.
    For the record I'm obviously not endorsing any of this as I've said earlier in the thread, I'm just saying the international situation regarding it is a lot more complicated than simply foreign policy relations or single morality decision-making

  • sace 👍
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    Smacked Voodoo

    I don't really what's going on, but I do know it better not be people tryna defend genocide

    Maybe they’re trolling too hard lol

  • Jul 17, 2020
    Enpax

    It is lol, either that or denying it

  • Jul 17, 2020
    Scratchin Mamba

    Not trying to get into this but like I said the list literally has nothing to do with credibility of any claims or any leaders and everything to do with whether countries want to have better relations with the US or China.

    ^should be obvious this is all these pr statements come down to

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