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  • Feb 22, 2021
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    newgodlevel

    Bellingcat literally gets paid by the NED - they are far more of an "asset" than anyone else mentioned in this thread

    I'd ask for proof but even then, does that actually make them wrong?

    Show proof if you want to though

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    I'd ask for proof but even then, does that actually make them wrong?

    Show proof if you want to though

    he admits it himself twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/828554441485869056?s=20

    If you dismiss the Grayzone because you believe them to be Russian assets (idk where this comes from) then why can't you say the same for Bellingcat?

  • newgodlevel

    he admits it himself https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/828554441485869056?s=20

    If you dismiss the Grayzone because you believe them to be Russian assets (idk where this comes from) then why can't you say the same for Bellingcat?

    Blumenthal has been to the kremlin and corresponded with russian state officials

    I dont trust the grayzone simply because we already have proof of russian disinformation efforts impacting our elections, it is absolutely plausible that theyd want to take a few steps further and hit us with disinformation. Bellingcat is actually journalism. Additionally, being funed by the NED isnt as strong a tie as having literally been to the kremlin

  • Feb 22, 2021

    I need Grayzone to update their website though because that s*** looks like a conspiracy website lmao

  • Feb 22, 2021

    theguardian.com/world/gallery/2009/jul/06/russia-obama-administration

    Barack visited the Kremlim, he might be a Russian asset too

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    Democrats like to blame Russia for losing in 2016 because they're arrogant and it's easier than admitting they f***ed up - it really isn't that big of a deal

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    newgodlevel

    Democrats like to blame Russia for losing in 2016 because they're arrogant and it's easier than admitting they f***ed up - it really isn't that big of a deal

    I didnt say that, I said russia was active doing disinformation, I didnt say democrats lost only because of it

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    I didnt say that, I said russia was active doing disinformation, I didnt say democrats lost only because of it

    every country does disinformation though

    Obviously Russia and Syria benefit from an "anti-West" narrative, but that doesn't mean that everything critical of the West is a Russian op

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    newgodlevel

    every country does disinformation though

    Obviously Russia and Syria benefit from an "anti-West" narrative, but that doesn't mean that everything critical of the West is a Russian op

    Not only dies the grayzone criticise the west, it outright defends russia at every juncture. It's a a pathetic publication

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Not only dies the grayzone criticise the west, it outright defends russia at every juncture. It's a a pathetic publication

    only because they seek to act as a counterweight to the 99.9% of the media who are craving conflict with Russia

    it's basically playing devil's advocate and challenging the incessant propaganda that people get given everywhere else in the media

  • Feb 22, 2021

    like nobody on the left actually likes Putin and Assad, we just don't think that it's up to the West to replace them because

    a. it's not their place to do
    b. whoever they replace them with will be someone who suits their own interests and not the interests of Russia/Syria

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    newgodlevel

    only because they seek to act as a counterweight to the 99.9% of the media who are craving conflict with Russia

    it's basically playing devil's advocate and challenging the incessant propaganda that people get given everywhere else in the media

    I mean let's be honest Russia kind of sucks s*** like I dont know how plainly I have to speak but it ain't america putting gay people in prison or annexing parts of its neighbour. Like maybe people dont like russia because Russia is dislikable

    Is it really propaganda if at every turn you make yourself look like a sitcom dictatorship

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    I mean let's be honest Russia kind of sucks s*** like I dont know how plainly I have to speak but it ain't america putting gay people in prison or annexing parts of its neighbour. Like maybe people dont like russia because Russia is dislikable

    Is it really propaganda if at every turn you make yourself look like a sitcom dictatorship

    the U.S is allies with countries that do far worse.

    Plus you have to wonder how the Russians feel - surrounded by U.S military bases and their "enemies" have kept NATO (even though it was formed against the Warsaw Pact, which Russia has dissolved)

    Obviously that doesn't justify their actions but I think it's something important to consider

  • Didn't Joe Biden just shrug this off?

  • newgodlevel

    the U.S is allies with countries that do far worse.

    Plus you have to wonder how the Russians feel - surrounded by U.S military bases and their "enemies" have kept NATO (even though it was formed against the Warsaw Pact, which Russia has dissolved)

    Obviously that doesn't justify their actions but I think it's something important to consider

    Yeah saudi Arabia can go suck a f*** too

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    https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1364031024368414722

    Love that from Canada

  • Feb 25, 2021
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    No one cares about the Christians getting killed in Armenia huh

  • Feb 25, 2021
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    Dry Van

    No one cares about the Christians getting killed in Armenia huh

    Armenia is a christian country, you're thinking of azerbaijan, and also I care

  • Feb 27, 2021

    After Nanking massacre how can China do this? I truly hope history doesn’t repeat itself with China taking Japan’s place with this.

  • Mar 2, 2021
    TragedyBerlusconi

    Armenia is a christian country, you're thinking of azerbaijan, and also I care

    No i am thinking of Armenia, Nagorno-Karabakh is ancient Armenian land located in the midst of a islamic dictatorship run by a oil hungry blood sucker.

  • Mar 2, 2021
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    Wont share it here

    Over on r/neoliberal theres 2 great posts debunking the genocide denial talking points

    It doesnt matter the source, it's important and true

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