It's not, the AI reference track for Timeless is the exact same vocal take as the final version
do you have both of these versions? i’m not a dedicated enough stan to know this - also do you have dates and s***?
If he’s using ghostwriters that’s low key hilarious cuz he don’t be saying a damn thing
It’s more about the flow & melodies
i mean i’m not defending ai use in music im just saying all this speculation looks really wild from an observers perspective
i mean i’m not defending ai use in music im just saying all this speculation looks really wild from an observers perspective
yea im like how would you even know
So it's now confirmed
This guy Lawson is credited on Timeless as a writer and is also the one who recorded the reference track that was ran through Ai that leaked. So this guy Lawson is writing for Carti and recording reference tracks which he then runs through Ai to sound like Carti
can somebody research if he’s only credited on genius I’m trynna see something… we might have another noah sammak here
I know we let awful things in artists’ personal lives slide all the time, and it might seem weird to draw the line here, but this actually effects the art, and I really feel like this has to be a line in the sand.
We cannot let AI created vocals/AI written verses, etc. become commonplace, and should, as fans, blackball artists that use it at all.
This is so f***ed up, I hate this s***
do you have both of these versions? i’m not a dedicated enough stan to know this - also do you have dates and s***?
This AI demo made by Ojivolta and Lawson leaked before the official version of Timeless dropped

The official version dropped later

If you listen to certain words, like "wanna" when carti says "shawty keep wanna come round" you'll hear it's the exact same "vocal" take, just mixed better
0:21 in the demo
0:37 in the released
Weeknd clearly rerecorded the AI parts
Since Carti's verse is so similar to the Demo leak, either the Carti verse was always real (which seems very unlikely) or Carti never rerecorded the AI vocal take
So it's now confirmed
This guy Lawson is credited on Timeless as a writer and is also the one who recorded the reference track that was ran through Ai that leaked. So this guy Lawson is writing for Carti and recording reference tracks which he then runs through Ai to sound like Carti
Carti such a bum if true.
Can’t even record a verse someone else wrote
What happened to hip hop
can somebody research if he’s only credited on genius I’m trynna see something… we might have another noah sammak here
He’s credited on spotify
I know we let awful things in artists’ personal lives slide all the time, and it might seem weird to draw the line here, but this actually effects the art, and I really feel like this has to be a line in the sand.
We cannot let AI created vocals/AI written verses, etc. become commonplace, and should, as fans, blackball artists that use it at all.
This is so f***ed up, I hate this s***
i would phone in sick for abel too, lucky we have the great camilla cabello grabbing great feature spots
Why are all of the mysterious niggas doing this? Next will be Frank Ocean
I could genuinely see Frank doing ts
I could genuinely see Frank doing ts
Frank would have an android performing on stage if he could
i would phone in sick for abel too, lucky we have the great camilla cabello grabbing great feature spots
I would have to consider trying to do so too, but didn’t Able at least re-record his own vocals?
At that point it’s similar to recording from a reference track (which also sucks imo) but isn’t as bad as having someone else write, record, and produce everything and then take all the credit.
But yeah, I do wish Able wouldn’t tolerate this s*** on any level, and it’s kinda disappointing that he does in a way.
Carti such a bum if true.
Can’t even record a verse someone else wrote
What happened to hip hop
Should've known it was coming when Carti didn't do anything about the Ai song that went viral and now got almost 100m streams on Spotify
I would have to consider trying to do so too, but didn’t Able at least re-record his own vocals?
At that point it’s similar to recording from a reference track (which also sucks imo) but isn’t as bad as having someone else write, record, and produce everything and then take all the credit.
But yeah, I do wish Able wouldn’t tolerate this s*** on any level, and it’s kinda disappointing that he does in a way.
i'm just cheap hating because i love carti on the camilla cabello track and it's funny that he kinda sucks on this one
The weeknd makes some of the easiest music for AI to imitate
he used to have soul but yes this is now true
Should've known it was coming when Carti didn't do anything about the Ai song that went viral and now got almost 100m streams on Spotify
Damn, I didn’t even hear about this.
It’s sad to me how much of a negative influence on the culture he seems to be becoming; I loved WLR and thought that he could be a good presence in that, like, producer centric sphere of rap, considering that WLR was an actual risk and more than most rappers in that sphere would take a chance for.
It’s just frustrating that he has become more and more lazy and less reasonable with how he operates, and gets away with it because he’s just the brand that everyone knows at this point.
i'm just cheap hating because i love carti on the camilla cabello track and it's funny that he kinda sucks on this one
Oh, I see, lol. That’s cool