i subscribe to the buddhist like idea that all phenomena is derived from consciousness. like a dream. so consciousness would be like "god".

It ultimately boils down to a deep-seated fear that you will one day have to account for your wrongdoings. It’s like the equivalent to screaming and plugging your ears. If you deny that there’s a higher power watching over everything you do, it’s easier to cope.

Another portion of people are just midwits who think that having no faith makes them more intelligent than a spiritual person.

When you think about it, it doesn’t really make sense that we came from single celled organisms.

Evolution as a concept is like suggesting that if a bunch of semi trucks carrying cake ingredients crashed into one another, a nice cake would pop out of it.

I’m not saying evolution isn’t real at all, some animals are evolving in real time, but a lot of our traits and features are far to perfectly made to just be coincidental. There’s evidence of intelligent design all over nature

Science should not work against faith, but it should work together to reinforce it. More scientists could be investigating intelligent design instead of theorizing that were in a simulation or some s*** but that wouldn’t fit the agenda

Real

Ignorance doesn’t disprove existence.

Scowling wojak universe was intelligently designed by God

Soyface wojak universe is a simulation on a computer

but there’s no difference between these really 🤔

Science doesn’t work against faith. Science has always been here. Faith and religious beliefs were things created by humans.

It’s faith that works against science. Not the other way around.

I’m sure there have been plenty of scientists who researched intelligent design. Just didn’t come back with anything convincing.

Facts, we really just don’t know enough yet to take any hard stance and to think otherwise is egotistical

I just don't care anymore. What I do or don't believe about the origin of the universe makes up a small fraction of who I am as a person and the idea that I should militantly force it on others is off-putting to me. Christians do it, atheists do it, I just don't get it.

The day to day interactions between people are complex and nuanced enough that muddying the waters with debates and judgments of the deeply-felt beliefs of others (or lack thereof) seems to defeat what I believe is the most important part of living: being a supportive, loving and honest person who contributes positively to the lives of others.

There is room to be inquisitive about God and the universe but my personal experiences have not led me to believe that a productive discussion about them is likely to happen online. I know for a fact that Christ would not spend his time arguing with atheists in YouTube comment sections. He would be out here trying to directly impact people's lives and their problems. That's how you truly make people think differently.

why do you think it wouldn't be the same thing

you have no idea what you’re talking about, as per the atheist brand

this notion that science is like this objective thing that has always been around since the dawn of humans and isn’t a construct while everything else is, is again, materialism talk and scientism at work

Facts. As a Christian or follower of the Scriptures I have a similar mindset. We focus so much on the Big Bang or Genesis which both tell similar stories, the problem is, that most of us deny the prophetic sense of God. God has more verses in the Spirit of “It Shall Come To Pass” than anything in Life and definitely the Bible.

The more we as humans focus on the Prophetic Nature of God, the more we understand Him. The more valid His existence is.

Once someone learns even 10% of prophecy, that’s enough gas to learn or see His hand in creation as well as the BC era.

Atheism is like if you loved a book, loved the words, loved the sentence structure, etc.

But didn’t believe it had an author.

In fact, many Abrahamic faiths state that when God will end this world (ie, Doomsday), It will remove all of the laws of physics that governed this planet. So really, all the rules, formulas & calculations that humans used to interpret & then reject God, would be turned on us.

Kinda like a final “Oh these little things? Gravity? Force? Oxygen? These are just settings for me”.

facts

Side note, when the scriptures state there’s gonna b a New Heaven & Earth I do wonder if we’ll have a new realm of physics.

'science' is not an autonomous entity its a set of institutionalised procedures constructed out of peoples collective efforts which may or may not embody the 'scientific ideal' of empirical research

science is wrong all the time, it cannot fulfil the function of worldview and the development of science and technology under the influence of secular ideologies has led to disastrous consequences (ecological crisis, nuclear war etc) and scientific fields often undergo periodic paradigm shifts rather than solely progressing in a linear and continuous way, and these paradigm shifts open up new approaches to understanding what scientists would never have considered valid before; and the notion of scientific truth, at any given moment, cannot be established solely by objective criteria but is defined by a consensus of a scientific community, also the replication crisis is an ongoing methodological crisis in which it has been found that the results of many scientific studies are difficult or impossible to reproduce. because the reproducibility of empirical results is an essential part of the scientific method, such failures undermine the credibility of theories building on them and potentially of substantial parts of scientific knowledge

“god doesn’t exist” is a claim just as much “god does exist” is a claim, i never understood the semantics people employ with the burden of proof whenever theology is brought up too

the "idea" of science as a construct sure. but gravity? the laws of physics? regardless of what they were called or whether or not they were being studied and observed, they were very real and existed in our reality

those are natural laws and order of the world, yeah

there is nothing intrinsically scientific about any of it

you’re conflating reality with the study of science, and i reject that they existed before they were “observed” there is nothing that exists independent from a mind

no it isn't. disbelieving something when there is no actual proof isn't much of a claim. it's more like common sense

we would not have to "claim" we disbelieve if people never claimed they did believe. so it's up to believers to prove the existence