snowboyrari

2y

like I've tried to explain to people, israel is a key component of inter-imperialist competition in the middle east and north africa. the current US administration sees Israel as an essential part of projecting hard power across the region whereas other imperialist powers see Israel as a fetter on the free flow of capital to the region and the establishment of effective gulf neocolonies. this is the actual backdrop to the current political moment.

snowboyrari

2y

like I've tried to explain to people, israel is a key component of inter-imperialist competition in the middle east and north africa. the current US administration sees Israel as an essential part of projecting hard power across the region whereas other imperialist powers see Israel as a fetter on the free flow of capital to the region and the establishment of effective gulf neocolonies. this is the actual backdrop to the current political moment.

orobi

2y

Wouldn't the us would rather pick the arabs over israel in that case though? Israel doesn't really have much oil so im not sure why they feel israel specifically is so valuable ... There is a reason they are trying so hard for the normalization deals. I really feel like its just the lobby that forces them to pick israel

mjpplus

2y

Right, because essentially it’s the only “white” region in the Middle East. I totally get it on the imperialist power front. Kind of a long standing mistake from post WWII where the allied powers went “here’s a map, pick where you want to live.” Not even taking into consideration who was living there what so ever.

Post “War on Terror,” “Israel” is the only state that the US has no beef with so it’s the only place they have any real power. Of course there are allies in the region but their interests aren’t the exact same as the US. The state of “Israel” is built on the allied powers imperialist foundation. It was their way of continuing imperialism under the guise of “we’re looking for a place that displaces Holocaust survivors can live in.”

Am I making sense?

snowboyrari

2y

never forget what Job Byron once said: "if an Israel didn't exist in the middle east, we would've created one".

BlueDream

2y

This man doesn’t have an ounce of charisma in his body. WOAT pick for VP

BlueDream

2y

This man doesn’t have an ounce of charisma in his body. WOAT pick for VP

mjpplus

2y

Oh my god they wrote something that was bare minimum and the DNC still said no what the f***

ThomFork

2y

Protestors interrupted her interview and Colbert handled it like a badass. But you can tell the heat is getting to the people in the hot chair.

Wack300

2y

Here’s my thing and let me be realistic. I think Trump is going to win. I’m emotionally preparing for it.

However, I want to wake up after Election Day and be proven wrong. I will vote for Harris, Trump is too old and is just too much like a bratty schoolgirl throwing a tantrum nowadays especially after getting shot. I wanted to give him a second chance but he’s just not doing it right

But the pull this guy has on everyone, including people here like me is indescribable.

I can’t escape him mentally. He has me by the throat mentally. He got what he wanted, the ultimate overdose of fame.

Never underestimate your opponent.

Thats why Hillary lost in 2016. That comey letter dealt the final blow to her campaign.

WRU

2y

dam slime stop doing tricks on an 80-year old man pecker

mjpplus

2y

I was going to post this long rambling essay in the DNC thread but it ended up turning into a whole different rant entirely.

If the Democratic party had a single inkling of a braloserl they would let a Palestinian speak on the DNC stage tonight, there's no reason why they shouldn't

The Uncommitted Movement even was okay with a vetted speech and the DNC still denied it. The Democratic made good electoral moves since the change to Kamala until now. Now is a great time for you to at least put one foot behind the movement so that electorally you could gain more support.

I know politically they have to play the game of appeasing "Israel" and more than likely their positive stance on them won't change even after this Genocide ends. But for a party who is seemingly head over heels on wanting a two state solution all they're doing is telling, not showing. Optically, a party who wants a two state solution should let people from (directly or someone with family) both proposed states to speak.

I hope that this changes, there are still several hours til speeches begin and they can fit in five minutes for somebody. S*** they've been running late every night it's not like they can't make the room. I was very, very shocked that Biden acknowledged the protests in a semi positive light when he spoke the other night and Kamala should do the same, but even more.

If she wants a surefire win, she has to advocate more for the Palestinian people. The baseline "We're working on a two state solution and a ceasefire" is not enough. Even just hinting at an arms embargo would be seen as a positive sign.

I feel like the US is afraid to even put their foot down with "Israel." The UK and France have done it and absolutely nothing has happened to them. Now I also realize that AIPAC has almost everything to do with framing America's political stance on "Israel" so there would be difficulty there hence why electorally I don't think she should go full fledge against "Israel," but Kamala should at least signal she's going to be tougher on them.

There is no realistic reality where a third party is going to have a chance at getting 5% of the vote. A third party candidate is never going to get enough support without building a base. Through all the elections I have voted in since turning 18 (primaries, general elections, local elections, etc.) I have never seen a third party socialist or even democratic socialist candidate appear on my ballot. I assume it's a similar case in many other places. That is what has to change in order for this country to fundamentally change, but it has to be from the ground up. It is very unrealistic for a third party candidate to just win the presidential election without any party influence in DC or even state and local governments.

The party needs to make some strides in showing that they care about ending this genocide if they even want to gain another voting bloc. Once Trump is completely out of the picture by way of another electoral loss and a subsequent ☠️ I feel that a lot of people will find it much easier to speak out against the Democratic party and their policies. They claim to be progressive but not they're really not. It's like they're handing out a cookie to a starving person saying "vote for me and I'll give this to you" when in reality you need much more than the cookie. Then they hang the threat of Republicans being evil saying "that guy will take the cookie, eat it himself, and shoot you in the face" which for the most part is true. I think Conservatism is a disease that needs to be eradicated. Liberalism is close to that but at least they have a semblance of an inkling of the right ideas. Like 0.1% but it's better than -100%.

I feel like I ended up rambling but point being, the Democratic party will be an easier party to fight against if we want real change to be made. But it can't come at the drop of the hat of a random third party presidential win. After this election there needs to be real organization in local communities from third parties to win seats on school boards, city councils, then state government, and then eventually the federal government.

Of course it is and will always be Free Palestine and put an end to the Israeli apartheid state.

ThomFork

2y

People don't like hearing it but voting 3rd party down the ballot at the present moment will ensure a lot worse stuff to happen for people who truly care about this s***

mjpplus

2y

I was going to post this long rambling essay in the DNC thread but it ended up turning into a whole different rant entirely.

If the Democratic party had a single inkling of a braloserl they would let a Palestinian speak on the DNC stage tonight, there's no reason why they shouldn't

The Uncommitted Movement even was okay with a vetted speech and the DNC still denied it. The Democratic made good electoral moves since the change to Kamala until now. Now is a great time for you to at least put one foot behind the movement so that electorally you could gain more support.

I know politically they have to play the game of appeasing "Israel" and more than likely their positive stance on them won't change even after this Genocide ends. But for a party who is seemingly head over heels on wanting a two state solution all they're doing is telling, not showing. Optically, a party who wants a two state solution should let people from (directly or someone with family) both proposed states to speak.

I hope that this changes, there are still several hours til speeches begin and they can fit in five minutes for somebody. S*** they've been running late every night it's not like they can't make the room. I was very, very shocked that Biden acknowledged the protests in a semi positive light when he spoke the other night and Kamala should do the same, but even more.

If she wants a surefire win, she has to advocate more for the Palestinian people. The baseline "We're working on a two state solution and a ceasefire" is not enough. Even just hinting at an arms embargo would be seen as a positive sign.

I feel like the US is afraid to even put their foot down with "Israel." The UK and France have done it and absolutely nothing has happened to them. Now I also realize that AIPAC has almost everything to do with framing America's political stance on "Israel" so there would be difficulty there hence why electorally I don't think she should go full fledge against "Israel," but Kamala should at least signal she's going to be tougher on them.

There is no realistic reality where a third party is going to have a chance at getting 5% of the vote. A third party candidate is never going to get enough support without building a base. Through all the elections I have voted in since turning 18 (primaries, general elections, local elections, etc.) I have never seen a third party socialist or even democratic socialist candidate appear on my ballot. I assume it's a similar case in many other places. That is what has to change in order for this country to fundamentally change, but it has to be from the ground up. It is very unrealistic for a third party candidate to just win the presidential election without any party influence in DC or even state and local governments.

The party needs to make some strides in showing that they care about ending this genocide if they even want to gain another voting bloc. Once Trump is completely out of the picture by way of another electoral loss and a subsequent ☠️ I feel that a lot of people will find it much easier to speak out against the Democratic party and their policies. They claim to be progressive but not they're really not. It's like they're handing out a cookie to a starving person saying "vote for me and I'll give this to you" when in reality you need much more than the cookie. Then they hang the threat of Republicans being evil saying "that guy will take the cookie, eat it himself, and shoot you in the face" which for the most part is true. I think Conservatism is a disease that needs to be eradicated. Liberalism is close to that but at least they have a semblance of an inkling of the right ideas. Like 0.1% but it's better than -100%.

I feel like I ended up rambling but point being, the Democratic party will be an easier party to fight against if we want real change to be made. But it can't come at the drop of the hat of a random third party presidential win. After this election there needs to be real organization in local communities from third parties to win seats on school boards, city councils, then state government, and then eventually the federal government.

Of course it is and will always be Free Palestine and put an end to the Israeli apartheid state.