it's terminal

"assimilate into participation within the western world culture of bipartisan corporate welfare and a passive acceptance of the wealthy network of fascist pedophile war criminals attempting to manufacture popular consent for the genocide of lower class minority groups"

damn u wrote all that

And tbf I don't think people assimilate into the status quo as a sign of maturing or growing old, its just easier to go with the flow as you live your own life.

It's more the realization that being a "woke commie neo-Marxist" is silly and the root of all these problems you mentioned is based on the human being's inclinations for pretense, performance and greed, all of which do exist within the "woke commie neo Marxist" frame as well.

There's also the realization that we are a lot of people, and no one really is waving ur flag, people just be looking out for themselves. Any idea of group or community outside your friend group and your family (and maybe your church if you're religious like that) is delusional.

Humans were meant to live in small groups. We're currently at such an insane scale that no approach will work.

The next real step is to develop a very deep understanding of the human brain.
Can't solve those issues with political-economic ideologies, that's ridiculous.

Marxism very well understands that social conditions are intensely influenced by psychological patterns.

The issue is that current systems of organizations positively reinforce antisocial, degradating behaviors rather than positive ones; these behaviors then reinforce the system in a cyclical manner

(We can see this in your decision to emphasize the innate human desires as negative and to engage in alienation of communities)

If these behavioral patterns are innate and everpresent, then the place to apply change are materially expressed systems and what parts of our psyche are uplifted and what parts are suppressed

Ngl I'm not all that well read regarding marxism, but I believe you. I just have a very strong suspicion that 90% of people claiming to be marxist, don't really know wtf it is about.
I get the impression that people really just want to pick a team and fulfil that need of belonging somewhere.
No time for personal growth, self-reflection, education, just pick ur team and go play sum of that good old tribalism.

OP needs some p**** like a streaming service

"(We can see this in your decision to emphasize the innate human desires as negative and to engage in alienation of communities)"

I am not claiming all innate human desires are negative btw.
Some are.

I do not promote alienation of communities. What I'm trying to say is many communities aren't reality communities like that.
Which ties with my point about scale: Sure, your family and friends constitute community absolutely, which you can actively particpate in, influence and lean on when in need. But if you scale things up too much outside of those base things, I'm afraid it just doesn't work, it all becomes smoke and mirrors.

Tbh when we violently overthrow the government….what happens next?

Mons pubis

So does mine my country was destroyed by civil war i wouldn't even be in this place if it wasn't for cacs colonizing us over the years . nobody knows what happened to like 2 of my uncles to this day. i hate when i have to justify my position like this

My perspective is like, is that really worth the risk... look at the price the syrians paid for going against assad. Their country is destroyed and they ended up with a dipshit as their leader same thing would prolly happen in any american revolution.

probably wouldn't be left wing also in any way but thats getting too much into hypotheticals

that was in an era where boomers got older and fell face first into money, those avenues aren’t as plentiful in this day in age

You are looking at a case of imperial violence in a non contextual vacuum so of course it isn’t worth the risk and only destructive

Who is “we.”

What kind of power structure is hypothetically replacing the government. There are a lot of moving parts to consider before asking this question in expectation of a final answer

"What kind of power structure is hypothetically replacing the government."

Well, another government of course. And the wheel keeps turning.

Once again, a lot more moving parts to consider before answering so conclusively

I appreciate your optimism tbh, I hope you're right.

Marxist? I hardly even know her🤣🤣

it really isn’t “optimism” to say that the world and history is a little more complicated than saying “all governments are fundamentally the same”

And it really isn’t “cynicism” to say that the world and history is no more complicated than saying “all governments are fundamentally the same”

It’s a matter of how informed you are, as you corroborated yourself

Sorry if I'm wrong. But believing the huge clusterfuck we're in can be mended takes some optimism imo.

My point kinda is Can we really work with an equation so complex and with so many "moving parts to consider"? Is the human race emotionally mature and educated enough to have these systems work properly and efficiently at such large scales? (governments responsible for dozens or hundreds of millions of people, global economies, etc)

"Fuck everyone else trying to improve the world. Focus on mending the brain". Pathetic

Define “paradise”

Relative to who?

Technology created a lot of cynics afraid to dare to whimsy and have hope and thats why the children of the 60s kept fighting in spite of being under dire straits.

I cant afford to be a pessimist/doomer because otherwise I woulda ended it by now dawg.

Thread title is funny to me

Yeah keep trying to mend the world while making the same mistakes over and over again good luck