What you didnt know that they would tape black men in Jamaica in front of women and children ? Why do you think Jamaicans hate homosexuality so much ?

must be a b**** posting on page 92 cus I can't see the post

it's just poignant lol.

i knew that but it's wild someone took the time to draw that s***

Im just some dude on a music forum i don't expect anyone to take me seriously. Nice essay though.

They invested probably 500K in that movie. If whoever drew it was paid by the production team, no surprise.

Good to know. Would be much easier if all trolls just straight up told us like you did.

Much appreciated.

Aaaaaaand Blocked.

That dude takes himself way too seriously

Dude think because he OP of ktt black empowerment thread that he has the authority on all things black.

I bet you homie a bum ass nigga in real life. He deliberately will disregard statistics and facts it it goes against his own twisted narrative (like the fact black historians have legitimized buck breaking not being nearly as prominent as homophobes make it out to be.)

Homie just a dumb nigga. It’s cool tho.

Happy Friday to all you

what's a good book to read about Haiti and its people, looking for something that spans decades or even centuries

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Jacobins

All this back and forth in here is really exhausting.

People like Tariq & Umar (especially Umar) are gaining traction and have been because no matter how you slice it they both know how to speak to a specific, yet large demographic of Black people in the US.

We really do need to discuss how degreed up, Black folks from the suburbs with all this a***ysis and critical race theory course completions don't know how to talk to Black people. Also throwing reading lists at people isn't doing anything to help either.

Umar is a hotep, makes ahistorical talking points & spews harmful rhetoric a lot, but when he's speaking he's not throwing jargon at people and trying to flex his education.

A lot of these folks who claim to be better than the Umars and Tariqs of the world be antiblack and talking to Black people like idiots and have no practical application to what they're saying.

thanks!

This one is more unorthodox but Libète: A Haiti Anthology is another great read.

Don't really have much outside of that, there's a good sizes Haitian American community around me though I can probably ask around.

Added that to the reading list

I'm really fascinated by the people there and the place but can't seem to find books readily available. Its usually a chapter here and there in a book about slavery or the migration of black people but now I want something that explores the cultures deeper.

Cool, just tag me when you find something I'll be looking around for those two you sent me now in the meantime

btw did I share this thread in here?

ktt2.com/african-literature-thread-81764

y'all are welcome to come and share or just look around :)

“ A lot of these folks who claim to be better than the Umars and Tariqs of the world be antiblack and talking to Black people like idiots and have no practical application to what they're saying.”

Thats wild cause you just described Umar lol. How many times he always references or flexes that he’s a psychologist before he says some bullshit point? He does it too. The only difference is that black mainstream media gives him the spotlight for it. Feminista Jones helped create a whole network through twitter where people could connect and assemble for vigils (#nmos14) across the nation. Connections and organizations were made through that. Noname helped start a whole book club and built a whole community center in chicago for political spaces, arts, and books that’s free to the people. Where’s there breakfast club interviews at? Them niggas really been actually doing s***.

The media visibility is the main reason why “they been connecting with the black people” (which I’d argue against. We aint monoliths)

You say practical application but what exactly has Umar or Tariq done for the community? Hell, what have hoteps in general actually done? Raise consciousness? The niggas on the corner with bullhorns and wearing them damn leather/hells angels jackets that tell us we going to hell be doing that too.

The people really getting it done (degree or not) are actually outside. Or they’re creating black initiatives through the social media. They not chasing celebrity because celebrity activism is bullshit (shoutout to Deray and Shaun King).

So nah, it’s not as simple as “lol why these black ppl with degrees not connecting with the black ppl?” shawty.

“Also throwing reading lists at people isn't doing anything to help either.”

Ima keep it a buck, I really, reallllllly hate that this has become something to look down on in recent decades lol. Like there aint been proof that books have helped radicalize the people, or all this s*** we talk about aint come from the same books. Like Malcolm X’s autobiography didn’t help radicalize a generation.

U dont gotta read to be a revolutionary, but don’t say educating yourself on the things we need or want to change aint a revolutionary action lol

You can't s*** on Umar and boost up the likes of Warren supporter FeministaJones who said Black men can't be radical.......................

You really missed my point. There is a reason why people give Umar attention even when they don't agree with what they're saying and why Blacademics especially lately hve been getting told about themselves.

Throwing reading lists at people is not helping them do anything.

You're not helping them process these reads, when they question something they read people immediately go on attack, and how is this practically applied outside of the internet? Nonames Book Club is great, but that's few and far between.

You're just naive or confused if you think people are actually out here organizing appropriately and if you deny echo chambers existing and the majority of Black people being excluded from them.

"you really missed my point"

you acknowledge those things but not the fact that I mentioned that she and noname actually DID something. Like.....you can point to and say "hey, they did this for us."

I'm asking, what did Umar do for us? Besides telling us to kill our children? Besides hold off money for a school he been talking about building for a decade? Noname got a whole community center, I'm sure Umar got more money than a female rapper that he could at least start something of a small scale pan african learning center/school for black boys. I mean I used to be in a homeschool that was literally meant for this. But they ain't give James 'Baba Jim' Cameron (R.I.P.) his Breakfast Club interview, that's strange.

Blacademics can connect better I do agree. But what I'M saying is degree or no degree, the niggas that are actively doing things and being in the neighborhoods and talking directly to the people (directly. Not through youtube videos. Not through IG Lives. Not through bullshit documentaries) are not even getting the media spotlight. Nor are they trying to chase it. THAT'S what I'm getting at.