Solid. I’m always yearning to learn and discern. For yourself, why do ya say it doesn’t add up to practical knowledge?
I was introduced to all of this as a shorty. But scientific knowledge such as evolution makes more sense to me. Now I do believe that the races have distinct differences but there is no race greater than the others. There is no “chosen people”
The Torah, Tanahk, Quran, Bible... all fictional tribal folk lore written by man to try to describe the conditions of man and the universe. Until men and women all over the world discovered scientific methods facts and evidence that reveals that the world/universe is older and more complex than any religon has described.
Now, people get angry about the idea (fact) that we evolved over millions of years. But I’ve come to the conclusion that even that is a spiritual becoming of mankind. The first humans may very well have been archetypes of an Adam and Eve concept. But the literal story of genesis? I highly doubt it.
Y’all familiar with horizontal and vertical progression and how we desperately need both over the next decade or two?
Y’all familiar with horizontal and vertical progression and how we desperately need both over the next decade or two?
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Y’all familiar with horizontal and vertical progression and how we desperately need both over the next decade or two?
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I was introduced to all of this as a shorty. But scientific knowledge such as evolution makes more sense to me. Now I do believe that the races have distinct differences but there is no race greater than the others. There is no “chosen people”
The Torah, Tanahk, Quran, Bible... all fictional tribal folk lore written by man to try to describe the conditions of man and the universe. Until men and women all over the world discovered scientific methods facts and evidence that reveals that the world/universe is older and more complex than any religon has described.
Now, people get angry about the idea (fact) that we evolved over millions of years. But I’ve come to the conclusion that even that is a spiritual becoming of mankind. The first humans may very well have been archetypes of an Adam and Eve concept. But the literal story of genesis? I highly doubt it.
Ok ok I see, for sure, Genesis is a metaphor and can be understood in many ways. They did remove understanding from Genesis (espicvally Cain and Abel) in order to get to revelations. The full story is told in Moses 5 and 6 (possibly more books as well) with more understanding in The Apocalypse of Abraham also.
Now when it comes to civilization, the sumerians were the first documented and imo us as humans have to respect that as a fact or even an idea. My problem with evolution is that we want to sternly believe that we’re the ultimate beings on existence with supreme knowledge and so forth. Thing is, this understanding was here from the beginning of time. From Adam to Abraham tp us. Cain, to Egypt to Nimrod and now Cern. Both sides of the life have understanding, it’s just a matter of whose wisdom is gonna prevail.
Egypt, Nimrod and CERN all deal with Portals. Persian Babylon as well. It’s just their application is appropriate for their time. What we call science,they’d call alchemy or khemistry. It’s all the same.
In the Bible, what we call UFOs, they’d call chariots and clouds. Heck, Enoch was “translated” and Jesus went “up in a cloud”.
It’s us as Man and our carnal understanding that fails us, never these ancient texts.
So from a horizontal standpoint, there are more Blacks that are educated with higher literacy rates than in any point of time in history. Horizontal progression is knowing more.
But on the flipside we still haven’t mastered business. We know how to work for other cultures but struggle to find work for our own.
Then there’s vertical progression. We’re stuck. Vertical progression is wealth, population, growth in families, importance in society, ownership, etc. I don’t think I have to tell you where we are in regards to that...
So from a horizontal standpoint, there are more Blacks that are educated with higher literacy rates than in any point of time in history. Horizontal progression is knowing more.
But on the flipside we still haven’t mastered business. We know how to work for other cultures but struggle to find work for our own.
Then there’s vertical progression. We’re stuck. Vertical progression is wealth, population, growth in families, importance in society, ownership, etc. I don’t think I have to tell you where we are in regards to that...
This sir, absolutely. We haven’t mastered business and accumulation of generational wealth.
Ok ok I see, for sure, Genesis is a metaphor and can be understood in many ways. They did remove understanding from Genesis (espicvally Cain and Abel) in order to get to revelations. The full story is told in Moses 5 and 6 (possibly more books as well) with more understanding in The Apocalypse of Abraham also.
Now when it comes to civilization, the sumerians were the first documented and imo us as humans have to respect that as a fact or even an idea. My problem with evolution is that we want to sternly believe that we’re the ultimate beings on existence with supreme knowledge and so forth. Thing is, this understanding was here from the beginning of time. From Adam to Abraham tp us. Cain, to Egypt to Nimrod and now Cern. Both sides of the life have understanding, it’s just a matter of whose wisdom is gonna prevail.
Egypt, Nimrod and CERN all deal with Portals. Persian Babylon as well. It’s just their application is appropriate for their time. What we call science,they’d call alchemy or khemistry. It’s all the same.
In the Bible, what we call UFOs, they’d call chariots and clouds. Heck, Enoch was “translated” and Jesus went “up in a cloud”.
It’s us as Man and our carnal understanding that fails us, never these ancient texts.
You’re making me want to dive down the rabbit hole again. I’m going to come clean, my experience with the doctrine and the Hebrew Israelite community has left a bad impression on me. Especially since I was introduced to it through the brothers that yell on street corners. So im definitely going to keep an open mind and dive back into it. But so far the scientific community has me convinced. Big Bang theory, evolution, chemistry biology. I’ve become very practical over the years but something in me wants to believe in something bigger than “science”
What’d ya think of the Foot Locker read
I thought it was an interesting theory.
Haven't looked deep into it.
You’re making me want to dive down the rabbit hole again. I’m going to come clean, my experience with the doctrine and the Hebrew Israelite community has left a bad impression on me. Especially since I was introduced to it through the brothers that yell on street corners. So im definitely going to keep an open mind and dive back into it. But so far the scientific community has me convinced. Big Bang theory, evolution, chemistry biology. I’ve become very practical over the years but something in me wants to believe in something bigger than “science”
Hope ya do my friend. It’s more than just “hating” white people lol. Gonna b honest, if one reads Genesis 3:13-15 and hone in on verse 15. Go thru the book and find where that prophecy came to pass.
Overall. There is an amazing amount of information that’s been revealed and unsealed to us. For myself, I’ve known that there were various Hebrew mounts and paleo Hebrew findings in North America pre Columbus. To understand that that they came over here according to 2nd Esdras and reading Columbus’ Book of Prophecies and he cited the same verse (among others) to find the lost tribes of Israel was mind blowing.
Now in Moses 5/6 , what validated it for me was me being reintroduced or taught again in the faith. I read Hebrews where it said, we’re in the priesthood of Melchizedek. That’s only found in Genesis believe the 14th or 15th chapter. Those Books of Moses brings clarity to me because it states even Adam was baptized by water and then baptized by fire (word of God)
Also it explains the Illuminati rituals ppl talk about, seen with lamech and cain. Innocent sacrificing of humans for social gain.
Those 2 books are amazing, can be found if one were to download the Mormon bible app lmao. It sounds off but I truly believe there’s truth in the Moses texts.
There’s a lot I’m not getting to bro but man, like ya said continue with an open mind and let Yah guide ya to the truth.
My journey was roundabout as He knows I love studying history. He revitalized the truth to me while playing a video game. Lmao Forza Horizions. On the Map was “Astamoor” that led me BACK to this point.
We definitely should be a people of balancing hidden and ancient knowledge with technology, business, literature, language plus what were already known for (entertainment, music, sports). But a lot of us focus on the latter and laughed at when we just focus on the first two.
I’ll beat a p**** nigga in this Hugo boss
She like why you care, i said f*** the cost
I’m so sick of lame hoes
Pull up like I’m django
Never gonna change hoe
Never gonna change hoe yeaaa
Last time I checked black men never cheat
That’s that energy
we give it off for free
She be talking crazy but I’m loyal to the
Cause I’m so sick of lame hoes
shooting for the fame hoes
Yeaaaaaaaa
Why not
I don’t agree with everything but some of the stuff is ok
lol because they are ridiculous
They have the truth but are misrepresented in popular light.
In the social conscience they’re in between Christians and “hoteps” yet not one person has been able to dispute their beliefs and understanding in the Bible and history.
Have to admit, some camps or churches do spew hate BUT that doesn’t dispute that they stick to the Bible thru and thru.
One may disagree with their presentation but if we were to read it via manuscript, it’s valid.
There are videos I’d recommend that are more educational than entertaining but I’d rather protect these channels than showcase them to some KTT phony ass site. God bless
You could pm it to if you wanted. Just wanted to learn more about them outside of the media. I don’t joke or judge about different beliefs not sure if that’s what you thought I was on but thanks
Anyone know interesting political history from Africa besides South Africa because that's where I'm from and what we been taught has been debunked as bs.
AKA most of the s*** Nelson Mandela promised was complete bs, 😉 if you want me to elaborate I can.
Half of y'all sound like the crazy uncle at the cook out but I guess I'm in. Educate me
Anyone know interesting political history from Africa besides South Africa because that's where I'm from and what we been taught has been debunked as bs.
AKA most of the s*** Nelson Mandela promised was complete bs, 😉 if you want me to elaborate I can.
Yes, elaborate on Mandela.
I peeped this through the news, the timing.
What's good? Sorry I didn't see yall already had a thread. Good looking out.
I made a thread :
ktt2.com/black-empowerment-thread-21473/1
What do y'all think? Should mods lock my thread?
I was OP on the last site and we brought the thread to over 1000 pages. So if you like I can add your text to my OP and we can lock one thread and only keep one alive?
I'm ready to follow the discussion for the next couple of years to be honest.
I'll try to list out required non-fiction reading relevant to different sections of the Diaspora as well as general/Pan-African materials but I don't know much about Afro-European lit so someone direct me lol
For those who can speak French, I would suggest all books by Kemi Seba.
African Americans (Foundational Black Americans, American Descendants of Enslaved Africans on U.S. Soil)
D*** Gregory - The Shadow That Scares Me
Eddie S. Glaude Jr - Democracy in Black: How Race Still Enslaves the American Soul
Harriet A. Washington - Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present
Donald Bogle - Toms, Coons, Mulattoes, Mammies, and Bucks: An Interpretive History of Blacks in American Films, Updated and Expanded 5th Edition
Patricia Hill Collins - Black Sexual Politics: African Americans, Gender, and the New Racism
Douglas A. Blackmon - Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II
Michelle Alexander - The New Jim Crow
Tom Burrell - Brainwashed: Challenging the Myth of Black Inferiority
Edward E. Baptist - The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism
Joy DeGruy - Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome: America's Legacy of Enduring Injury and Healing
William Henry Chafe - Remembering Jim Crow: African Americans Tell About Life in the Segregated South
Manning Marable & Leith Mullings (editors) - Let Nobody Turn Us Around: An African American Anthology
Carter G. Woodson - The Miseducation of the Negro
Lerone Bennett Jr. - Before the Mayflower: A History of Black America
Randall Robinson - The Debt: What America Owes to Blacks
Afro-Europeans
Johny Pitts - Afropean: Notes from Black Europe
Afro-Caribbeans/Afro-Latinos
Norman E. Whitten Jr. & Arlene Torres - Blackness in Latin America and the Caribbean, Volumes 1 & 2
Eric Williams - From Columbus to Castro: The History of the Caribbean, 1492-1969
María de los Reyes Castillo Bueno - Reyita: The Life of a Black Cuban Woman in the Twentieth Century
General (growth/organization/history/empowerment) Reading/Pan-Africanist
Amos N. Wilson - Blueprint for Black Power: A Moral, Political, and Economic Imperative for the Twenty-First Century
Kwame Anthony Appiah - Africana: The Encyclopedia of the African and African-American Experience
Frantz Fanon - The Wretched of the Earth
Ahmed Shawki - Black Liberation and Socialism
Robin Walker - When We Ruled: The Ancient and Mediaeval History of Black Civilisations
C.L.R. James - A History of Pan-African Revolt
Amos N. Wilson - The Falsification of Afrikan Consciousness: Eurocentric History, Psychiatry and the Politics of White Supremacy
Malcolm X - The Autobiography of Malcolm X
Paulo Freire - Pedagogy of the Oppressed
Jared Diamond - Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies
Bell hooks - Ain’t I a Woman?
Stokely Carmichael - Black Power: The Politics of Liberation
Hugh Thomas - The Slave Trade: The Story of the Atlantic Slave Trade, 1440-1870
Anthony W. Marx - Making Race and Nation: A Comparison of South Africa, the United States, and Brazil
Bell hooks - Sisters of the Yam: Black Women and Self-Recovery
Simone Schwarz-Bart - In Praise of Black Women, Volume 1-3
Ama Mazama - The Afrocentric Paradigm
African
Adam Hochschild - King Leopold's Ghost
Claudia Zaslavsky - Africa Counts: Number and Pattern in African Cultures
Steve Biko - I Like What I Like: Selected Writings
John Reader - Africa: A Biography of the Continent
Roméo Dallaire - Shake Hands with the Devil: The Failure of Humanity in Rwanda
If there’s something that should be here, let me know and I’ll add it. Admittedly lacking in East African reading materials beyond one of the encyclopedias I included (Africana)
@knova
What about The Isis Papers by Frances Cress Welsing