Dec 14, 2021·5 repliesthose of you saying ‘i watched it since 8. it does damage,’ … what’s wrong with y’all exactly?
Dec 14, 2021·1 replylistening to p*** > watching it
Flaphead 🎧Dec 14, 2021
gabapentinFirst off, I'm sorry that all that happened to you.
You make a good point about the fact that, in a world with online p*** ubiquitously available, it really does define what is perceived as sexually "normal" for so many young people
I was talking to my friend about this the other day -- online p*** is so much different from a***og p*** not only because of the ease of access but because of the sheer breadth of different p***ographic videos, images, GIFs, etc. available
when p*** is, to a user, magazines in a brown bag or even a collection of VHS tapes, there are a limited number of sexual acts which are "covered" by p*** -- one is much less likely to think that the map is the territory with regards to p*** and s***
but when there is an incalculable amount of p***ography online, with every conceivable s***act imaginable represented in some video somewhere, then one who is raised in a milieu where that is available begins to view p***ography as the exact boundaries of the conceptual sexual universewhich is to say, p*** and s***are the same thing
now of course considering the brazen and disgusting sexual degradation that characterizes so much online p***, this is harmful in the sense that it leads to experiences like yours and billie's, where one is lead to believe that sexual degradation is "normal" and that one is "expected" to degrade others and be degraded oneself
but there is another, arguably more pernicious (at least in scale) problem, which is that if s***is p***, one's imaginative capacity vis-a-vis s***and sexuality is impoverished
one approaches sex, and the manifold facets of human life related to it in some way (love, courtship, marriage, reproduction, sexual violence) with a mindset limited by the boundaries of the conceptual universe set by p***
the s***act is a performance -- one is in missionary, then after about five minutes, they switch to doggystyle, then five minutes later she gets on top, and this all happens not organically but conceptualized as following a video length bar with little lines to denote the start of the particular s***act
p***ography inherently categorizes sexual participants as well. if you are a black man, you might begin to think of yourself as the star of a BLACKED video, not as an individual actor with their own unique relationship to s***and sexuality not delimited by preexisting wank fodder
this actually goes even further than s***itself, and implicates more than p***. social media is essentially the p***ography of human interaction and sociality. people posting to create a persona and then match it are essentially p***ographizing themselves as social actors, enacting a parodically gonzo simulation of how people organically act IRL (or at least, how they used to before the p***ographization of the world). many of them do it for money, but the professional aspect is only part of it. those of us who do it for free are simply amateur social p*** actors
the millennial, zillennial or zoomer raised on online p*** begins to intuit that everything that is real is fake, and everything that is fake is real. this is not an inaccurate statement, either, when everyone else in your life was raised to believe the same thing
Fantastic post, and thank you for hearing me out my friend
- Dec 14, 2021Offline
Very interesting point about social media as p***ography of human interaction! (The whole thing is interesting, but that idea is novel to me). But I think it strikes at the heart of the matter about what the problem is with social media, where people will hang out and just show each other TikTok videos, or arguably even worse, they will hang out (or travel, or go hiking, or go out, etc) just to get pictures to post on Instagram! Of course there is nothing wrong just with taking a picture of you and your friends hanging out, but when that’s one of the primary reasons, it becomes a simulacrum of the experience, like you are performing hanging-out-with-friends, your aim is to tell other people that you are hanging-out-with-friends, rather than just doing it (and maybe incidentally taking a photo).
yes precisely
it is inherently p***ographic at that point, in the same way that the actors have s***in p***ography solely to create the video
and of course amateur p*** attempts to create the impression that it is a spontaneous moment of passion that just happens to be incidentally captured by a camera, just like people who are only doing something for the gram are trying to create the impression of "oh, there's a camera here?"
- Dec 14, 2021·1 replydapagod
those of you saying ‘i watched it since 8. it does damage,’ … what’s wrong with y’all exactly?
scar tisue in the p**** from using it from an early age.
now my s*** look like goku
- Dec 14, 2021·1 replydapagod
those of you saying ‘i watched it since 8. it does damage,’ … what’s wrong with y’all exactly?
to sum up all of what i wrote on page 10, i think that after enough exposure to online p***ography, it destroys the ability to view s***as anything but "porn in real life"
it is exactly opposite from what it "should" be, where we watch p*** but we understand that it is "fake sex"
s***is defined by p*** and not the other way around
Dec 14, 20219 lights years away just outside the Kepler solar system
- Dec 14, 2021Jvnkyrdawg
scar tisue in the p**** from using it from an early age.
now my s*** look like goku
not sure what this means frfr but yeah sounds bad.
Dec 14, 2021
Water GiverI dont think i watched actual p*** until 13/14 iirc
Same
- Dec 14, 2021·3 repliesgabapentin
to sum up all of what i wrote on page 10, i think that after enough exposure to online p***ography, it destroys the ability to view s***as anything but "porn in real life"
it is exactly opposite from what it "should" be, where we watch p*** but we understand that it is "fake sex"
s***is defined by p*** and not the other way around
yeah but i’m curious what this manifests in as far as real, measurable behavior and how that differs from generations past’s sexual behavior.
- Dec 14, 2021·1 reply
RockstardMost sexually twisted ruler: Emperor Nero? Or Caligula? Mere runners-up. Emperor Tiberius (reigned A.D. 4 - 37) holds that dubious honor. According to his biographer Suetonius, in later life, Tiberius built himself a p*** central on Capri. There, youngsters performed elaborate daisy-chains of sexual acts, the emperor by turns voyeur and participant. Even grosser activities took place in his bathing pools, where toddlers were trained to nibble and fellate him underwater. The old perv called them “his little fishes.”
https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/libraries/article/55717-the-7-weirdest-sex-stories-of-the-ancient-world.html
P*** is not new
Ok you are using one s***addicted demented ruler to claim this is natural. Having that much power is not a natural thing for humans and thats why so much of the rich are f***ing weirdos. Having millions of different p*** videos at the tap of ur finger tips is nothing our ancestors had to deal with and it is unnatural
- Dec 14, 2021·2 repliesdapagod
yeah but i’m curious what this manifests in as far as real, measurable behavior and how that differs from generations past’s sexual behavior.
The popularity (or proclaimed popularity) of certain sexual acts, or acts in a sexual context - I look especially at physical degradation like slapping or choking
Although as he said the biggest change is just the general view of s**
- Dec 14, 2021·1 replydapagod
yeah but i’m curious what this manifests in as far as real, measurable behavior and how that differs from generations past’s sexual behavior.
the issue isn't necessarily the behavior itself intrinsically (Marquis De Sade was writing some insane fetish s*** in like 1780 for example, that stuff isnt new), the issue is the psychological relationship individuals develop with it and how that effects mental health and interpersonal relationships by tangent
Dec 14, 2021·1 replySHAQUILLEAlcohol isn’t as accessible as p*** tho. And everyone is aware of the effects of alcohol already
You lying and you know it bruh lmfao
- Dec 14, 2021·1 replydapagod
yeah but i’m curious what this manifests in as far as real, measurable behavior and how that differs from generations past’s sexual behavior.
for one example, i think that, as flaphead and billie eilish said -- and ive also been with girls who i suspect have this mentality -- that it induces people to perform more elaborate, potentially risky, and not actually enjoyable sexual acts because p***ography has presented it as not only normal but desirable
pretty much every girl my age that I've talked to about it likes to be choked, or at least represents that she does. from conversations with older heads, this was not common at all until very recently.
other things like a*** or eating ass are also much more common than they were in previous generations
i remember my first GF was eager for us to try a*** on her birthday, then right before we did it, she was like "wait, why are we doing this when only you will get pleasure from it"
and i was like "i don't even want to do this, it was your idea!"
now, i don't think these acts are necessarily inherently bad. but i think they have been proliferated as normal far past where the kind of person who would normally find that actually enjoyable -- a particular kind of risk-taking, adventurous personality -- are the only ones being induced to do it
- Dec 14, 2021·1 replycoolguy12
Ok you are using one s***addicted demented ruler to claim this is natural. Having that much power is not a natural thing for humans and thats why so much of the rich are f***ing weirdos. Having millions of different p*** videos at the tap of ur finger tips is nothing our ancestors had to deal with and it is unnatural
Just 100 years ago, not even the greatest scholars in history could have imagined the infinite access to information we currently literally have in our hands, & wat we do with that s***?
P***
- Dec 14, 2021·1 replykrishna bound
the issue isn't necessarily the behavior itself intrinsically (Marquis De Sade was writing some insane fetish s*** in like 1780 for example, that stuff isnt new), the issue is the psychological relationship individuals develop with it and how that effects mental health and interpersonal relationships by tangent
to what i just posted a minute ago, in previous generations only the kind of esoterically minded, really kinky, non-normie (for lack of a better word) person who seeks out the works of de sade or similar kinds of things would be exposed to that kind of thing and maybe want to try it
now it's all on p***hub, a site that every 13 year old has heard of
- Dec 14, 2021
Everything in moderation. And also responsible parenting (least in my case lol)
Cant put too much stock in somebody who’s parents allowed a grown man to date their teenage daughter
- Dec 14, 2021·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
You lying and you know it bruh lmfao
How am I lying? Any kid can view p***ographic content on their game system and or cell phone or tablet and it costs nothing. Now compare that to alcohol which costs money and you have to have an ID to purchase. Which do you think is more of an issue for people under 18
- Dec 14, 2021
@oscarwilde get itt
- Kr0niic ☘️Dec 14, 2021·1 reply
11??
Damn that just sounds too young for me.
Hell I watched it first at like 13 and in hindsight THAT feels young for me. Can’t imagine starting at 11
- Kr0niic ☘️Dec 14, 2021dapagod
those of you saying ‘i watched it since 8. it does damage,’ … what’s wrong with y’all exactly?
The damage is they are now a ktt poster
- Dec 14, 2021·2 repliesgabapentin
to what i just posted a minute ago, in previous generations only the kind of esoterically minded, really kinky, non-normie (for lack of a better word) person who seeks out the works of de sade or similar kinds of things would be exposed to that kind of thing and maybe want to try it
now it's all on p***hub, a site that every 13 year old has heard of
I know a lot of people talk about the influence of p*** on sexual behavior itself but I've always thought that was a kind of secondary issue. Like for sure imprinting sexual behavior isn't great by any means, but I think a much bigger issue is the literal behavior p*** causes in interpersonal relationships, something which is severely understudied. Like similar to any other vices, there's a level under which it causes imperfections, but these are somewhat ignorable, but we're not talking about a 30 year old watching 1 p*** video a day the same as drinking 1 can of beer a day, we're talking about pre-pubescent children with repetitive and infinite access to any and all p*** on a regular basis. I don't think it's very hard to draw the conclusions on how this affects the way people then view people of the other sex, or treat relationships, or abstractly place interpersonal incentives or signals.
Nessy 🦎Dec 14, 2021
vaylashe missed Sara Jay's entire peak. don't think Billie Eilish is qualified to talk about p***
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