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    Elric

    Heard it for the billionth time today and it still roused my spirit definitely top tier folk song of the year

    Gonna do a deep dive of this year when that channel I like covers it next Friday. I’ll let you know what gems I find.

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    Fella

    Gonna do a deep dive of this year when that channel I like covers it next Friday. I’ll let you know what gems I find.

    check out some of the gems i found put in 3 months of work

    anything you dont recognize near the top of my list

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    check out some of the gems i found put in 3 months of work

    anything you dont recognize near the top of my list

    Will do

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    Fella

    Will do

    The best songs I discovered for this year;

    Dave Berry - Don't Give Me No Lip
    Ben E King - River Of Tears
    Wilson Pickett - For Better Or Worse
    Bo Diddley - Keep Your Big Mouth Shut
    Ricky Nelson - From A Distance
    Dave Berry - Crying Game

  • Aug 4, 2021
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    Elric

    too many classics





    @rvi thoughts?

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    The Animals and Shangri-Las rookies of the year

    Brian Wilson and Lennon the mvp's

    Dave Davies the riff-monster of the year and Clapton was doing some ridiculously potent stuff with the Yardbirds but id have to give Townshend guitarist of the year nobody stepping to his slashing free-jazz solos and pulverizing rhythm work

    Sam Cook clearly gets vocal oty but its another year of Roy Orbison pretty much rivalling the best soul singers out there

    Spector gets producer of the year again of course but "Shadow" Morton hot on his heels with the Shangri-Las epics

    by far the best year popular music had up to that point

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    Elric

    @rvi thoughts?

    its (roughly) in order right?

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    rvi

    its (roughly) in order right?

    Yeah pulled my hair out for weeks over the sequencing

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    Elric

    @rvi thoughts?

    its looking solid, although the top 3 im not as big on as you are. a lot of songs on there i like but wouldnt put on a "best of year" level but i think thats because you like 1964 a bit more than me in general

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    Elric

    The Animals and Shangri-Las rookies of the year

    Brian Wilson and Lennon the mvp's

    Dave Davies the riff-monster of the year and Clapton was doing some ridiculously potent stuff with the Yardbirds but id have to give Townshend guitarist of the year nobody stepping to his slashing free-jazz solos and pulverizing rhythm work

    Sam Cook clearly gets vocal oty but its another year of Roy Orbison pretty much rivalling the best soul singers out there

    Spector gets producer of the year again of course but "Shadow" Morton hot on his heels with the Shangri-Las epics

    by far the best year popular music had up to that point

    @rvi

    need your version of this

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    Elric

    @rvi

    need your version of this

    for 65? or 64 cuz i see you got both Cooke and Who there

  • Aug 4, 2021
    rvi

    for 65? or 64 cuz i see you got both Cooke and Who there

    64

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    Elric

    @rvi

    need your version of this

    kinks not your rookies? yeah album isnt that great but for the 2 classic singles alone

    kinks rookies
    wilson MVP because of the heights, but beatles very close all things considered (def. better albums)
    sam cooke best vocalist i guess
    eric dolphy best jazzman from my limited knowledge
    i dont know enough producers to really say but its gotta be spector i guess
    Buck Owens for country

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    for 65:

    Be my Husband - Nina Simone

    Sinnerman - Nina Simone

    Like a Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan

    desolation row - bob dylan

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    Also all of A Love Supreme - John Coltrane

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    rvi

    kinks not your rookies? yeah album isnt that great but for the 2 classic singles alone

    kinks rookies
    wilson MVP because of the heights, but beatles very close all things considered (def. better albums)
    sam cooke best vocalist i guess
    eric dolphy best jazzman from my limited knowledge
    i dont know enough producers to really say but its gotta be spector i guess
    Buck Owens for country

    Idk as much as I love the Kinks I gotta admit the Animals were the ones that showed what the future of rock and roll was really gonna be like Rising Sun sounds like it's from 66 or even later

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    my picks for 65 pretty basic, but f*** nina simone went off on pastel blues man

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    Elric

    Idk as much as I love the Kinks I gotta admit the Animals were the ones that showed what the future of rock and roll was really gonna be like Rising Sun sounds like it's from 66 or even later

    no way imo

    given the importance of de riff in rock history and You Really Got Me's role in developing that its the other way around for me

    House of the Rising Sun sounds like '64 to me and surely that big rhythm & blues aspect was the opposite of where the future of rock was headed. the mood of it maybe i can see

    organ solo vs guitar solo too

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    rvi

    no way imo

    given the importance of de riff in rock history and You Really Got Me's role in developing that its the other way around for me

    House of the Rising Sun sounds like '64 to me and surely that big rhythm & blues aspect was the opposite of where the future of rock was headed. the mood of it maybe i can see

    organ solo vs guitar solo too

    I feel like the riff is great but alot more basic than the daring structure and length the Animals attempted and reached #1 with no chorus, super dark subject matter from the depths of the folk cannon, no bullshit lovey lyrics, Burdon with a vocal that would flatten any other Brit, ridiculously powerful production that would basically set the tone for every "epic" rock tune from then on.... Feel like it preceded not just Dylan's rock stuff and The Doors but also Nick Cave and alot of post punk in its mounting drama. Ray was just writing chunes for the street urchins which is great but he didn't find the magic sound I'm obsessed with till Well Respected Man next year.

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    Elric

    I feel like the riff is great but alot more basic than the daring structure and length the Animals attempted and reached #1 with no chorus, super dark subject matter from the depths of the folk cannon, no bullshit lovey lyrics, Burdon with a vocal that would flatten any other Brit, ridiculously powerful production that would basically set the tone for every "epic" rock tune from then on.... Feel like it preceded not just Dylan's rock stuff and The Doors but also Nick Cave and alot of post punk in its mounting drama. Ray was just writing chunes for the street urchins which is great but he didn't find the magic sound I'm obsessed with till Well Respected Man next year.

    yeah i can see the drama aspect for sure (not with Dylan though tbh). but that basicness and "chunes for street urchins" was definitely rock af. the mounting drama and type of vocal strength is a smaller subset of artists where the basic riff was a staple of like everything. from the most poppy rock to the most esoteric post punk to hard rock/metal

    maybe id feel differently if i held it in as high esteem as you, to me it's just a great song and not an all timer climax(s) dont hit me nearly as hard as they do to you

  • rvi 🦜
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    yeah Ray definitely didn't find the magic sound yet but they still somehow struck gold and its probably my #2 kinks song anyway. despite all the sophistication he(+they) would achieve later

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    rvi

    yeah Ray definitely didn't find the magic sound yet but they still somehow struck gold and its probably my #2 kinks song anyway. despite all the sophistication he(+they) would achieve later

    it's probably not in my top 50

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    rvi

    yeah i can see the drama aspect for sure (not with Dylan though tbh). but that basicness and "chunes for street urchins" was definitely rock af. the mounting drama and type of vocal strength is a smaller subset of artists where the basic riff was a staple of like everything. from the most poppy rock to the most esoteric post punk to hard rock/metal

    maybe id feel differently if i held it in as high esteem as you, to me it's just a great song and not an all timer climax(s) dont hit me nearly as hard as they do to you

    Ballad Of A Thin Man wasn't dramatic?

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    Elric

    it's probably not in my top 50