rvi

4y

with that statement on the production im just surprised youre not more of a mono purist still, that epitomizes that feeling i get from it. which isnt my absolute favorite but i think i know what you mean

was just listening to Blonde on Blonde stereo and think i actually might prefer mono partially cuz of that

so much of the late 60s-early 70s rock stuff was still so raw and rawkin (increasingly so) that slick isnt the word id use to describe the production at all. more like it brings more clarity so the performances and show more of their power. id guess id say they removed mostly thinking like harder rock here, like imagine Zeppelin or Sabbath with 1966 production and how theyd actually sound neutered af

Elric

4y

It was partly the effect of Hendrix making every band have to have a guitar hero doing big giant guitar solos

I need you to hear Roger the Engineer in stereo after hearing you talk about clarity and stuff here is that's exactly the difference for me.

There's something exciting about the constraints of the time and the artist doing the best they can within them that makes it more interesting to hear than when they could do whatever they wanted and the possibilities were endless same reason silent films are so fascinating to me

rvi

4y

every band having big giant guitar solos

ill dl roger stereo. might have actually peeped it years ago when i first listened and instantly discarded cuz i thought it sucked compared to mono, not sure

doing some research rn on Steve Hoffman Forum i see that a few of the stereo songs are fake stereo just rechanneled from mono plus some of Beck's overdubbed guitar parts missing on stereo namely on Hot House

rvi

4y

every band having big giant guitar solos

ill dl roger stereo. might have actually peeped it years ago when i first listened and instantly discarded cuz i thought it sucked compared to mono, not sure

doing some research rn on Steve Hoffman Forum i see that a few of the stereo songs are fake stereo just rechanneled from mono plus some of Beck's overdubbed guitar parts missing on stereo namely on Hot House

rvi

4y

that part doesnt sound noticeably better in one mix or the other to me. if its the part i think youre referring to. the earlier verse lead guitar part does sound better in stereo tho cuz i always thought it was bizarrely quiet anyway

for the whole album mix isnt terrible but all the reverb on the hard panned vocals alone are almost a dealbreaker for me. and it sounds weird to say it but i feel like the lead guitar is actually too loud on a lot of these songs in stereo, and the way its separated from everything else just makes the whole thing sound disjointed af. its already front and center in mono so i dont need it to be overpowering everything, their underrated rhythm section sounding kinda neutered sometimes. not that the mono mix sounds super amazing or anything though ofc but it just makes it bang harder

those fake stereo ones are actually unlistenable for me though, didnt even make it 30 seconds through Over Under Sideways Down before i had to switch

my verdict is 8/12 songs being decent and 4/12 (Hot House, Over Under, Turn Into earth, Jeffs Boogie) being unlistenable or vastly inferior

rvi

4y

@Elric i hope you havent been listening to this one in stereo the whole time, crazy how its literally just missing Beck's amazing lead guitar part. like literally the whole f***in thing

crazy s*** he starts doing at like 2:02 is essential

Elric

4y

but didnt you notice how the left ear washboard clatter to counterpoint the solo isn't even there? it has a huge effect on the moment

yeah the hard panned ones were the first to go :vom: (something ive been meaning to do for years)

Elric

4y

this is on my stereo version

CD says it was remastered by Paul Samwell Smith himself whomst produced it in the first place

Elric

4y

Do you not hear it on either version? only hear a little bit of it at the beginning of the solo on the mono version

rvi

4y

i didnt notice it at first. wasnt doing a direct comparison or anything just listening stereo whole way through. also not one of my favorite songs on the album in general tbh

Elric

4y

It's hard to not notice

Far from my favorite song either but still that moment is

French

4y

Good Vibrations is the best song of that year imo

rvi

4y

thats spooky cuz whichever stereo version i try to peep or dl is missing it

what year is that CD from?

rvi

4y

ok just compared and i still totally hear it the whole way in the mono version, maybe just less prominent but not like something is totally missing

Elric

4y

was just listening to Gordon Lightfoot debut when this started ringing a bell realized it was the Quicksilver covered but it wasnt actually Gordons

rvi

4y

is the gordon album any good?

Elric

6y

that and:

-elvis going to the army and selling out in general for hollywood

-richard getting reborn

-pervy chuck going to jail

-pervy jerry marrying his child cousin

having said that Fats, Bo and especially Ricky held it down

Rihanna Stan

6y

Temptations era I’ll be in

internet buddy

4y

We both forgot about Cochran smh

rvi

4y

trying to comb through some of these psych/nuggets compilation to figure out which songs are from 1966 right now i've started putting the years in the song titles for compilations like that recently but not in some of these older ones ive had for a while