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  • Dec 14, 2021
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    rvi

    thats just rock bro

    he contributed more to heavy metal, but musically and vocally there are a couple that have that driving force that reminds me a bit of punk

    what do you consider the first proto punk bands/tracks

  • rvi 🦜
    Dec 14, 2021
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    Atlienz

    he contributed more to heavy metal, but musically and vocally there are a couple that have that driving force that reminds me a bit of punk

    what do you consider the first proto punk bands/tracks

    what songs? and how is that driving force different than just straight up archetypical RAWK

    i dont really like to use the word proto punk that much but MC5 and Stooges are when I would use it more often. I would still call things like the Sonics, Monks, a few Who songs, Louie Louie proto-punk it just wouldn't be the first word I use to describe them. also because it's just not a very descriptive word musically

    forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/do-you-consider-polythene-pam-a-proto-punk-song.1116640 even hoffmanites fall for the stupidity of calling everything protopunk

  • Dec 14, 2021
    Elric

    Dang youre keeping it even realer than me

    Dylan’s the über goat but pitting his 5-8 min lyrical journeys against all these different pop/rock songs that do so much in under 3 mins is not fair to him at all. Aftermath is such a rocking album that I would have it at #2 if the tracklisting was better. Revolver is obv phenomenal but it has real competition to me.

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    Doors, Hendrix, VU and Love enter the scene next year

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    rvi

    what songs? and how is that driving force different than just straight up archetypical RAWK

    i dont really like to use the word proto punk that much but MC5 and Stooges are when I would use it more often. I would still call things like the Sonics, Monks, a few Who songs, Louie Louie proto-punk it just wouldn't be the first word I use to describe them. also because it's just not a very descriptive word musically

    https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/do-you-consider-polythene-pam-a-proto-punk-song.1116640/ even hoffmanites fall for the stupidity of calling everything protopunk

    I’ve told you before that because no one knows when punk rock actually began and ended, it leads to people constantly guessing

  • rvi 🦜
    Dec 14, 2021
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    internet buddy

    Doors, Hendrix, VU and Love enter the scene next year

    already in the scene

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    rvi

    already in the scene

    No songs out at this time

  • rvi 🦜
    Dec 14, 2021
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    internet buddy

    I’ve told you before that because no one knows when punk rock actually began and ended, it leads to people constantly guessing

    maybe but thats not really the same convo as the "proto punk" adjective unless youre talking about arguing if some of the earlier 70s stuff can be "true" punk yet or just proto punk which is kinda separate. and also uninteresting

    also shoutout to the boomers who just call all 60s garage rock "punk", in a way i can kinda respect that more

  • rvi 🦜
    Dec 14, 2021
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    internet buddy

    No songs out at this time

    i mean besides doors they all had songs out by then...or even 2 full on albums in love's case and doors released january 4 1967 anyway so barely missed it

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    rvi

    i mean besides doors they all had songs out by then...or even 2 full on albums in love's case and doors released january 4 1967 anyway so barely missed it

    Idk s*** about Love
    I thought Forever Changes was their first album

  • rvi 🦜
    Dec 14, 2021
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    internet buddy

    Idk s*** about Love
    I thought Forever Changes was their first album

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    rvi

    i mean besides doors they all had songs out by then...or even 2 full on albums in love's case and doors released january 4 1967 anyway so barely missed it

    VU did have songs out but I wonder who the f*** actually heard those in 66 lol

  • Dec 14, 2021
    rvi

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7KIA706cQw

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    Elric

    Yeah almost everyone from this era has been called proto-punk by somebody at some point but I feel like Van might have come closest with Them which is funny and fitting because he probably gives the least f***s about getting any sort of credit

    kinks and you really got me is really much closer imo.

  • Dec 14, 2021
    rvi

    maybe but thats not really the same convo as the "proto punk" adjective unless youre talking about arguing if some of the earlier 70s stuff can be "true" punk yet or just proto punk which is kinda separate. and also uninteresting

    also shoutout to the boomers who just call all 60s garage rock "punk", in a way i can kinda respect that more

    I agree that “garage rock” should be used instead of proto-punk way more

  • Dec 14, 2021
    Aruji

    kinks and you really got me is really much closer imo.

    And My Generation

  • rvi 🦜
    Dec 14, 2021
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    Atlienz

    VU did have songs out but I wonder who the f*** actually heard those in 66 lol

    real ones who were tapped in

  • Dec 14, 2021
    rvi

    what songs? and how is that driving force different than just straight up archetypical RAWK

    i dont really like to use the word proto punk that much but MC5 and Stooges are when I would use it more often. I would still call things like the Sonics, Monks, a few Who songs, Louie Louie proto-punk it just wouldn't be the first word I use to describe them. also because it's just not a very descriptive word musically

    https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/do-you-consider-polythene-pam-a-proto-punk-song.1116640/ even hoffmanites fall for the stupidity of calling everything protopunk

    yea I guess it's kind of a term that's thrown around too much but it's interesting to speculate. that beatles thread though

    only ones I was thinking was Manic Depression and Fire

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    rvi

    real ones who were tapped in

    didn't realize they were already playing shows

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    Atlienz
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXbyZc9L2_Q&t=189s

    didn't realize they were already playing shows

    They played shows before even thinking about getting into a studio

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    We all need to watch the VU documentary from Apple +

  • Dec 14, 2021
    internet buddy

    They played shows before even thinking about getting into a studio

    yea s/o to andy

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    internet buddy

    We all need to watch the VU documentary from Apple +

    downloaded it just the other day. gonna check it after this I'm Not There rewatch. Scorsese, Haynes and Jarmusch get extra points for their love of music

  • rvi 🦜
    Dec 14, 2021
    Atlienz

    downloaded it just the other day. gonna check it after this I'm Not There rewatch. Scorsese, Haynes and Jarmusch get extra points for their love of music

    lmk if its good

  • Dec 14, 2021
    Atlienz

    downloaded it just the other day. gonna check it after this I'm Not There rewatch. Scorsese, Haynes and Jarmusch get extra points for their love of music

    You saw Gimme Danger?