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  • sace 👍
    Aug 5, 2022
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    I’ll be ranking them soon

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  • Aug 5, 2022
    Aruji

    yea i heard about that. I think it's wrong for that time period but guy changed. I guess you can trace the beginnings of that change in Underground tho.

    There is a great article focusing on the political aspect of the film. https://www.ejumpcut.org/archive/jc51.2009/Kusterica/

    "the Balkan Wildman" yeah this is a complex situation especially I think for a north American to fathom interesting history on Yugoslavia that I didn't know helped make things clearer. Need to revisit Underground knowing this context.

  • Aug 5, 2022
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    dundis

    propaganda machine for "yugoslavian unity" aka underground (still a great film), deep ties to serbian nationalists even though he's ethnically a bosnian muslim but converted to christianity (which is fine)

    denies the bosnian genocide during the yugoslav wars (8300 dead)

    he also held some kind of speech back in 2008 in serbia that caused a storming of the kosovo embassy

    So he's rooting for all the countries that used to be under the Yugoslavian umbrella to get back there?

  • Aug 5, 2022
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    Elric

    So he's rooting for all the countries that used to be under the Yugoslavian umbrella to get back there?

    not sure, don't really think so. kosovo is a touchy subject for many balkan countries, but other than that I don't think anyone is seriously thinking of another yugoslavia.

    in bosnia & herzegovina, there's a serbian federation (there are two more) and kusturica is politically involved with serbian nationalists in that area of bosnia as a political advisor to the president of that part. they want to become independent and merge together with serbia if im not mistaken

    it's just that the trajectory of his filmmaking he went from being a universal voice of the yugos to serbs. underground came when the war was still going on to sort of remind people of the good ol "tito yugo days", which was the serbs wanted.

    it's a tough subject and i don't know 10% about it. this is what happens when you have a pan-nationalist nation where you define yourself based on ethnicity or just religion even rather than nationality.

  • Aug 5, 2022
    dundis

    not sure, don't really think so. kosovo is a touchy subject for many balkan countries, but other than that I don't think anyone is seriously thinking of another yugoslavia.

    in bosnia & herzegovina, there's a serbian federation (there are two more) and kusturica is politically involved with serbian nationalists in that area of bosnia as a political advisor to the president of that part. they want to become independent and merge together with serbia if im not mistaken

    it's just that the trajectory of his filmmaking he went from being a universal voice of the yugos to serbs. underground came when the war was still going on to sort of remind people of the good ol "tito yugo days", which was the serbs wanted.

    it's a tough subject and i don't know 10% about it. this is what happens when you have a pan-nationalist nation where you define yourself based on ethnicity or just religion even rather than nationality.

    Yeah if you got 10% I probably have about 2%

    It's hard to quantify or define but I noticed the later films had a sort of perceptible lack of heart and brains compared to the earlier stuff and, like arujis article said, played up the more ridiculous "Baltic Wildman" aspects of the culture maybe. Even from here I could notice the embracing of stereotypes and should have known there was maybe an agenda there.

  • Aug 5, 2022
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    F***in Bosnian Serbs always startin s***

  • Aug 5, 2022
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    Elric

    F***in Bosnian Serbs always startin s***

    word to the wise, remember pearl harbour

  • Aug 5, 2022
    dundis

    word to the wise, remember pearl harbour

  • Aug 5, 2022
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    almost beat you to the Paulie

  • Aug 5, 2022
    Elric

    almost beat you to the Paulie

  • Aug 5, 2022
    dundis

    u gotta peep hells angels

    :elon:

  • Aug 5, 2022

    similarities between the Strangelove bomber interior stuff and the zeppelin scenes

  • Aug 5, 2022
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    sace

    I’ll be ranking them soon

    Interesting #1

  • sace 👍
    Aug 5, 2022
    Elric

    Interesting #1

  • Aug 5, 2022
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    Elric

    People on Sunday bored me to tears but at least the brunette was cute

    did they accidentally get a shot of a russian gangster tho looks like a Vor

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    Elric

    did they accidentally get a shot of a russian gangster tho looks like a Vor

    100% prison/vor tats
    ayooo

  • Aug 6, 2022
    dundis

    100% prison/vor tats
    ayooo

    @rise_zero

  • Aug 6, 2022
    sace

  • Aug 6, 2022
    Fella

    Been meaning to watch Morocco

    It holds up

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  • Aug 6, 2022
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    sace

    My list for the year 1930
    1. Zemlya
    2. The Blue Angel
    3. The Dawn Patrol
    4. The Big Trail
    5. L'Age d'Or
    6. City Girl
    7. Morocco
    8. Little Lise
    9. A propos de Nice
    10. Abraham Lincoln
    11. All Quiet On the Western Front
    12. The Criminal Code
    13. Animal Crackers
    14. People on Sunday
    15. Hell's Angels

    HM: Virgin Lips, Men Without Women, That Night's Wife, Westfront 1918, Monte Carlo, Salt for Svanetia

    Pretty much watched all of these except for Dawn Patrol which I still can't find torrent won't finish rather

  • Aug 6, 2022
    RASIE

    My 1930 faves:

    1. Morocco
    2. City Girl
    3. Earth
    4. "À propos de Nice"
    5. L'age d'Or
    6. The Blue Angel
    7. Walk Cheerfully
    8. Men Without Women
    9. That Night's Wife
    10. I Flunked, But...

    Wish I had that silent ozu set

  • sace 👍
    Aug 6, 2022
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    Elric

    Pretty much watched all of these except for Dawn Patrol which I still can't find torrent won't finish rather

    1fichier.com/?f4bev3eh540lyqwx5rfl&af=539306/The.Dawn.Patrol.1930.DVDRip.x264-BiPOLAR.rar

  • Aug 7, 2022
    sace

    https://1fichier.com/?f4bev3eh540lyqwx5rfl&af=539306/The.Dawn.Patrol.1930.DVDRip.x264-BiPOLAR.rar

    yeah this wasnt working either thanks tho

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