As a Muslim i was reading the bible and wth is this?

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  • crippin jimmy

    That's a "gotcha" because you're directing people to Christianity (which isn't monotheistic but that's another point)

    as a former catholic i disagree but at the same time i really cant blame Islam for taking that postion because the trinity still confuses me

  • blame all your problems on Muslims see where it gets you

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    STEPPA PIG

    If you recognise the sexual impulses of men, why are you denying to see the validity in having women at the back during prayer and instead choosing to see it through the lense of dehumanizing women?

    Because hiding women and putting them in the background are not solutions they are oppression. Women shouldnt be oppressed because some men choose to uphold a patriarchal society and follow a religion that reinforces that patriarchal environment that encouragings the constant sexualization of women. It is men's responsibility to change that, not womens responsibility to hide.

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  • Rory

    you have a job?

    no

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    DawnDaddy

    Because hiding women and putting them in the background are not solutions they are oppression. Women shouldnt be oppressed because some men choose to uphold a patriarchal society and follow a religion that reinforces that patriarchal environment that encouragings the constant sexualization of women. It is men's responsibility to change that, not womens responsibility to hide.

    NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND

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    HaroldsChicken

    No you are ignorant to saying that you essentially think Muslim and feminist is a contradiction. You think that women that are Muslims are contradicting the religion itself which you view as misogynistic.

    I have made countless arguments in this thread as to why I believe it is misogynistic and you have made ZERO as to why it is not. And by the way, i base my opinion on the religious text and practices by the way. Please.....

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    STEPPA PIG

    If you recognise the sexual impulses of men, why are you denying to see the validity in having women at the back during prayer and instead choosing to see it through the lense of dehumanizing women?

    The pig avi is perfect

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    You realize some women choose to wear the covering correct . You understand that they can choose to wear a niqab or hijab and all be considered practicing Muslim. that its about what they are comfortable with ?

  • Willie Wildcat

    as a former catholic i disagree but at the same time i really cant blame Islam for taking that postion because the trinity still confuses me

    One God who expressed Himself three times

    We never worship the Father or Son in isolation

    You say in the name of the Father, then immediately the Son and the Holy Spirit, so they’re hypostases of one being

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    HaroldsChicken

    NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND

    You smoking crack

  • Willie Wildcat

    as a former catholic i disagree but at the same time i really cant blame Islam for taking that postion because the trinity still confuses me

    bc its a mystery of the faith..

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    HaroldsChicken

    I am not flustered by anything. I called you a moron and have said from the very first post to you that you lack an understanding of Muslims. You have an oversimplification and no matter how much you post in this thread you dont seek to learn more.

    K forget him being into minors

    I see you preaching about unity a lot

    But Islams/Muhammads opinionated statements on women being only worth half a man due to their intellectual deficiencies not raise a red flag? Muslim men are raised to think like this btw

    Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."

    Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2658
    In-book reference : Book 52, Hadith 22
    USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 3, Book 48, Hadith 826

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    DawnDaddy

    I have made countless arguments in this thread as to why I believe it is misogynistic and you have made ZERO as to why it is not. And by the way, i base my opinion on the religious text and practices by the way. Please.....

    there are different Muslims

    there are evangelist christians

    there are different interpretations to the Quran and different levels people practice

    again the most strict Muslim of all time exist but Muslims exist from all levels

    Yours is a grouping of the most extreme with them all

  • DawnDaddy

    Because hiding women and putting them in the background are not solutions they are oppression. Women shouldnt be oppressed because some men choose to uphold a patriarchal society and follow a religion that reinforces that patriarchal environment that encouragings the constant sexualization of women. It is men's responsibility to change that, not womens responsibility to hide.

    Men are doing things like making their username @Yesdaddy on a Kanye West forum. I'm not gonna criticise Islam for recognising reality

  • HaroldsChicken

    You realize some women choose to wear the covering correct . You understand that they can choose to wear a niqab or hijab and all be considered practicing Muslim. that its about what they are comfortable with ?

  • HaroldsChicken

    only fans drops at age 18 for bhad bhabie , crazy age gaps, Jerry Seinfeld openly dating a teenager yet he refuses to see

    Islamically there's nothing wrong with Seinfeld dating a teenager

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    Midzy

    The pig avi is perfect

    Niggas who weren't even at church yesterday giving their 2 cents ITT

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    YHVH

    K forget him being into minors

    I see you preaching about unity a lot

    But Islams/Muhammads opinionated statements on women being only worth half a man due to their intellectual deficiencies not raise a red flag? Muslim men are raised to think like this btw

    Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."

    Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2658
    In-book reference : Book 52, Hadith 22
    USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 3, Book 48, Hadith 826

    abuaminaelias.com/women-deficient-reason-religion

    Again when you are grasping at straws you will come to a conversation thats been had for 20+ years by someone who actually has attended each religious practice and talked with their people in good faith about concerns.

    I just look at what y'all say and laugh because I have had these tough conversations in REALITY.

  • STEPPA PIG

    Niggas who weren't even at church yesterday giving their 2 cents ITT

    who have never been to church

  • ALLAH >>>

  • DawnDaddy

    You smoking crack

    You truly dont get it and thats okay

  • YHVH

    K forget him being into minors

    I see you preaching about unity a lot

    But Islams/Muhammads opinionated statements on women being only worth half a man due to their intellectual deficiencies not raise a red flag? Muslim men are raised to think like this btw

    Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."

    Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2658
    In-book reference : Book 52, Hadith 22
    USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 3, Book 48, Hadith 826

    1 Timothy 2:11 to 12

    “Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man…”

    New Testament

  • HaroldsChicken

    there are different Muslims

    there are evangelist christians

    there are different interpretations to the Quran and different levels people practice

    again the most strict Muslim of all time exist but Muslims exist from all levels

    Yours is a grouping of the most extreme with them all

    Yes, that's a fair point. In this thread I wasn't talking about individuals, but about the religion as a whole, based on its religious texts and practices. I have no doubt Muslims like Mamdani (just an example) exist. However, I have to push back on the idea that there multiple types of interpretations, one of the most important things in Islam is that the text never changes despite the progression of society. Christians are more relaxed when it comes to that for example. That part I dont like at all

  • Three Meows Mór

    One God who expressed Himself three times

    We never worship the Father or Son in isolation

    You say in the name of the Father, then immediately the Son and the Holy Spirit, so they’re hypostases of one being

    That's modalism, Patrick

    (Sorry I love that video, but actually explains why explaining the Trinity is hard)

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