Jay E’s music lowkey always felt too personal and idk ‘mature’ for him to become a huge popular rapper or something. Like he could’ve been a rapper that sold 50-100k first week but never a real star. I don’t mind tho he still one of the goats to me.

Bruh half his brand is being weird/alternative, that’s a big part of his appeal

hes literally the face of mainstream electronic/dance along with fred again n charli

but yeah he took to long to do another project while doing an amine collab album for whatever reasom

Cheaper than mainstream

He was shelved because he wouldn’t budge on changing his debut which had sample clearance issues. That’s why he made Popular Culture

Not because he couldn’t make a hit, it’s rarely ever that simple with artists

If you listen to his tapes you can clearly see he had the potential

Every signed artist is signed because they have potential. None of XV's songs crossed over in the blog era when tons of his independent peers didn't have that problem. That wasn't for no reason. He had no appeal, was a corny guy, etc.

Sure but we’ve had people like him in hip
hop history still get beat placements. Tribe and even the Neptunes were literally that and look at how much Q Tip , Dilla and Neptunes got to produce

You 88 glam’s manager?

#TheAgenda post

His peers had better footing then XV. You don’t seem to remember the amount of backing a lot of his peers had in comparison

It simply wasn’t because they were better, the point I’m getting at is that it was politics that held XV back in the end

He didn’t have a major co-sign
He refused to leave Kansas during his peak
He didn’t have backing from his major label (sample issues)
He took a long break (because of his label issues)

Now I will say that some of his own choices held him back plus he was a pure product of the blog era & transitioning his sound from that would’ve always been a challenge for him

But saying he don’t have the skill set his peers had doesn’t checkout, the music is clearly there

Drake never became what he should've. Settled for pop star status

Cole never made more than 1 good album. F***ing hell

ive never heard of XV tbh what kinda rapper was he

wym by this

Robb Banks

Revisionist ass post

The music wasn't clearly there at all. Nobody mentions him in "classic mixtapes" talk. Ever. All of his peers have at least one. Wiz went through bullshit with his label and still made it happen, didn't have a co-sign.
Wale had label issues with Interscope pre-MMG, still made it happen with no co-sign then Ross eventually came along down the line. Wale was already established. Had classic tapes etc. Nobody even thought the MMG move was good for him at the time, let alone necessary.

You did nothing but give a million and one excuses lol. XV just didn't have it. He was Mickey Factz, Blu, Fashawn, Donnis, Cory Gunz tier at best. Nothing more.

Rip but Nipsey
No one was really tapped in til he died.
I remember I was with my white home girl and I told her that he just died she said “who”
And a week later she wouldn’t stop posting about him.
Nipsey should’ve blew up off “Feelin Myself” s*** was a slap in 2010 standards

Also BOB

Aight bro we not going to get anywhere here clearly, we simply just don’t agree & that’s all good

His label issues is the reason why we never got majority of his music onward for a longtime.

That was my response to you saying he didn’t make it because he simply didn’t have a hit, which is a over simplification. I’m just pointing out that it was more than just that

That was obvious, his first big song was Best I ever had

I thought Hopsin would’ve did better tbh. Nigga embraced the corn.

He should've made classic albums. Focused on the quality.

Bro stopped trying after he got to the top and been making safe projects.

The most out of left field project he could manage was house music which was already insanely popular and probably easier to make.

Bishop Lamont’s had everything he needed

Rapper from Wichita Kansas, these are tracks from his most well received project