lil ufo

5y

I got covid last year, no vac
so, how does a body not know how to fight it

DZE

5y

I wish my brain could fight the seizure that reading this post gave me

gh0stman

5y

Odds are it probably wouldve been less severe if u were vaccinated before hand

My mom got covid and beat it without the vax last year, but she also got pneumonia and ended up in the hospital for a week. Some people can beat it i guess, with different amounts of success. but a vaccine is suppose to make it a lot easier to fight off

lil ufo

5y

my mom also got in the hospital and got the vac, and I also have all my vacs until this one, so why do I have to feel coerced to take this one???

gh0stman

5y

Bc this is a virus that put our loved ones in the hospital and it’s preventing our social lives from being normal bro

lil ufo

5y

my only loved one is my mom atm, so she got the vac, I don't even go out and have a social life, I only go out in the nature by myself, so how am I putting anyone in danger?

gh0stman

5y

I didnt say u were putting anyone in danger, so maybe think about why u thought that would be the next argument

gh0stman

5y

Bc this is a virus that put our loved ones in the hospital and it’s preventing our social lives from being normal bro

Portvaldes

5y

Immune system f***ed in the long run

The vaccine is making the virus more deadly and may make corona actually a significantly deadly threat for the vaccinated.

https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822

In Israel, peer reviewed science has found vaccinated people getting hospitalized more severely. They gained minor protection but that was waning. Israel was one of the first countries to get mass vaccinated, and they are now invalidating vaccine passports for any who has gone 6 months since their second dose. The boosters expire in 6 months as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement?wprov=sfti1

“Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), sometimes less precisely called immune enhancement or disease enhancement, is a phenomenon in which binding of a virus to suboptimal antibodies enhances its entry into host cells, followed by its replication. The suboptimal antibodies can result from natural infection or from vaccination.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm?wprov=sfti1

“A cytokine storm, also called hypercytokinemia, is a physiological reaction in humans and other animals in which the innate immune system causes an uncontrolled and excessive release of pro-inflammatory signaling molecules called cytokines. Normally, cytokines are part of the body's immune response to infection, but their sudden release in large quantities can cause multisystem organ failure and death.”

No previous mRNA vaccine was approved because they all failed in phase three trials (which were shortened during covid), mostly due to ADE and subsequent cytokine storms. These things only happen after time has passed after the antibodies have been made, hence why Israel is starting to show it now, since they were early adopters.

The vaccine is likely causing ADE with subsequent exposures for individuals who have taken the vaccine a long time ago, and that will likely be intensified with boosters. We didn’t test long enough for such symptoms to appear and we justified that with “it’s a pandemic”.

The major concern is the development of conditions for cytokine storms to form after more booster cycles, as those are quite deadly.

lil ufo

5y

well you said it's preventing our social lives, so basically its putting in danger other people which we socialize with

Astronaut Dad

5y

crazy part is everything else they put in their body smh like yall still eat sugar saturated fats and use household products with copious amounts of prenatally toxic microplastics every day but the f***ing VACCINE is what ur scared to put in ur body

notglasspopcorn

5y

im not even anti vax but y'all stupid af thinking this s*** gonna end if everyone is vaxxed, im in Canada we have 85% vaxxed and s*** is still f***ed up, the only way to finally go back to normal will be treatments like the anti viral pills Merck and Pfizer plus some norweignen companies have created having great results, plus maybe more traditional vaccines like Novavax coming into play.

Tkken

5y

bullshit asymmetry principle in full effect. youve written out a wall of text assuming no one will bother to check you

I clicked the literal first study you sent and here is their conclusion:
"Data from Israel imply that the main reason for the increase in COVID-19 cases in summer is indeed waning immunity, and a third vaccine dose, 5 months after the second dose will possibly result in trend reversal 13,14.

This nosocomial outbreak exemplifies the high transmissibility of the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant among twice vaccinated and masked individuals. This suggests some waning of immunity, albeit still providing protection for individuals without comorbidities. However, a third vaccine dose may be needed, particularly in individuals with risk factors for severe COVID-19. "

the study is arguing that we need a third vaccine dose and youre using it to defend not taking the vaccine

now I could read the methodology and all of these other links but you lose all credibility when you write this presumptuous ass essay and cant even get the basics right

Portvaldes

5y

imagine your dad says no food until you and your brother give me that throat, you do it, then you blame the no food situation on your brother not complying

Medical coercion is just as illegal as incest my guy, stop the Stockholm syndrome

gh0stman

5y

I think u might’ve misinterpreted what i said bc this s*** will probably never go away for good, its gonna just be something we have to live with and have treatments for

gh0stman

5y

Yea as a whole with all these restrictions, the more protected people are as a whole, the easier it is to get closer back to normal

notglasspopcorn

5y

if there is treatments that stop it from replicating then it does in a sense go away, atleast the currently fear of it. I dont think we should treat people who are anti vax in a negative way tho because I understand vaccine hesitancy and side effects are heavily under reported.

lil ufo

5y

I am too skeptical of the government to actually 'return to normal', most people have no idea how easy is to pull the strings on the backstage, and if I was the government I would just make up new variants in order to keep the people under fear spells.

notglasspopcorn

5y

if there is treatments that stop it from replicating then it does in a sense go away, atleast the currently fear of it. I dont think we should treat people who are anti vax in a negative way tho because I understand vaccine hesitancy and side effects are heavily under reported.

lil ufo

5y

your body will not know how to fight the virus without a needle injection every 6 months for the rest of your lives, enjoy

gh0stman

5y

I agree except the side effects thing, i know this is anecdotal but i know a handful of people whove died from covid, and i dont know anyone who had adverse vaccine side effects so all im gonna say is id rather have a side effect than the real virus

gh0stman

5y

What would the government gain from that? I dont trust the government as much as the next guy but this is counterintuitive as hell even for them. They want money. Everyone does

Covid is pretty bad for the economy, especially showing a lot of workers they could make more money off unemployment rather than doing a job, and the shutdowns killed a lot of business, doing a pandemic isnt in the governments best interest

Chloe

5y

you know we have boosters for other vaccines like tetanus and dtp too...

or you against those too?

notglasspopcorn

5y

and side effects for young people get worse with more shots, so far after the second shot is when we are seeing a heavy increase in myocarditis for young men, after a 3rd shot would seemingly be even worse. People forget regardless the spike protein from covid is being mimicked and thats what causing these issues.