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  • May 6, 2025
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    Nort

    I’ll do you one better and point out that Kurt Cobain couldn’t play or sing for s*** but he still managed to make classic records.

    By playing music with a structure. He didn’t just go in and play random notes on the guitar. He played chords in a certain order and rhythm.

  • May 6, 2025
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    Poolboy Q

    I know Tyler’s punching the air rn for not coming up with wearing a piano backpack

    YO!! Why is he the first person I thought of when I saw that fit.

  • Nort šŸ’«
    May 6, 2025
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    also just peeped track 1 and the song begins and ends with the same motif

    zero musical structure my ass!

  • May 6, 2025
    Nort

    also just peeped track 1 and the song begins and ends with the same motif

    zero musical structure my ass!

    Damn so Andre knew what a motif was 10 years ago but forgot by the time New Blue Buns dropped

  • May 6, 2025
    provider

    YO!! Why is he the first person I thought of when I saw that fit.

    Cuz they both fit that quirky Wes Anderson character build

  • Nort šŸ’«
    May 6, 2025
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    2words

    By playing music with a structure. He didn’t just go in and play random notes on the guitar. He played chords in a certain order and rhythm.

    Jazz slander again I can’t believe it

  • goretex šŸ’šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø
    May 6, 2025

    EXTREMELY small percentage

  • May 6, 2025
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    What I originally meant was yes, a piece that’s actually played on an instrument. And in this case the technical ability would be some level of understanding of the instrument or composition or notes or chords

    If we were to extend it to just pieces without vocals, the same could apply but in that case the technical ability would be more likely to be rhythmic or structural, something that suggests purpose to how the music is put together and technical ability with a sampler or DAW

  • proper šŸ”©
    May 6, 2025
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    Nort

    ā€œzero musical structureā€ sounds awfully like free jazz slander

  • May 6, 2025

    Shoutout to Big Boi

  • May 6, 2025
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    Nort

    Jazz slander again I can’t believe it

    How is that jazz slander lol

    Jazz players the best at playing chord sequences. Chords and notes matter

  • Nort šŸ’«
    May 6, 2025

    track 2 and this is standard jazz piano noodling you’d think he was botching twinkle-twinkle-little-star with how 2words is talking

  • May 6, 2025
    2words

    Name 5 great instrumental pieces that were created by someone without technical ability

    damn near all of brian eno’s discography tbh. he’s not a traditional musician

  • May 6, 2025
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    2words

    Show me the hip hop ones. Technical ability isn’t limited to instrumental training though. Hip hop producers have technical ability with their sampler or program. I can’t think of any hip hop beats where the producer is just pressing random buttons hoping for the best

    They're good at computer but not musically trained, which is what it seemed like you were talking about

    if its strictly just about putting effort into something then yes no one can argue that Andre has put in enough effort to make fluent instrument music if what you say is true

    ...that's suggesting the measurement for something being artistically valid is the amount of effort put in which is a point I disagree with, you could train for a thousand years and still make boring pieces that don't make anyone feel anything

    you don't need to win these semantics battles to back up that you don't like this EP, you're allowed to dislike it without having some intrinsic point to it all

  • Nort šŸ’«
    May 6, 2025
    proper

  • Illermatic šŸ›°ļø
    May 6, 2025

    Glad to have met this goat in November
    Hope he keeps releasing art

  • May 6, 2025

    This is jazz baby

  • Nort šŸ’«
    May 6, 2025
    2words

    How is that jazz slander lol

    Jazz players the best at playing chord sequences. Chords and notes matter

    only so much as if you’re conveying the feeling you’re searching for

    which i imagine 3K feels as though he accomplished cus he put out this ep

  • May 6, 2025
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    yesac

    They're good at computer but not musically trained, which is what it seemed like you were talking about

    if its strictly just about putting effort into something then yes no one can argue that Andre has put in enough effort to make fluent instrument music if what you say is true

    ...that's suggesting the measurement for something being artistically valid is the amount of effort put in which is a point I disagree with, you could train for a thousand years and still make boring pieces that don't make anyone feel anything

    you don't need to win these semantics battles to back up that you don't like this EP, you're allowed to dislike it without having some intrinsic point to it all

    Suggesting that there is a baseline level of effort that should be put into music and playing an instrument isn’t the same as suggesting that ā€œmore effort=better musicā€. I feel like that’s a cop out. Effort isn’t the measurement but it is a pretty basic expectation. Without any effort, dedication or study you risk sounding like a child. Which can be cool in certain context (The Residents are an actual good example of this) but this isn’t one of them

  • Nort šŸ’«
    May 6, 2025

    off rhythm laughter

  • proper šŸ”©
    May 6, 2025
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    goretex

    who cares

    this just a dumb joke/callback to him getting exposed for using midi fluted a couple pages back bro

    chill on proper tho man fr

  • May 6, 2025
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    Oh i was to locked into the met gala thred that i missed this. F***ing hate flutes but love pianos so i can get into this one

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