May 11, 2021
ragedsycokillerThe blonde girl who was with the stretchy alien before he died
Also Titans family is there too. He did say it’s like a second home to them
May 11, 2021·2 repliesComic book spoiler:
eve is sooo real
AMBER COULD NEVER
May 11, 2021·1 replyEverestComic book spoiler:
eve is sooo real
AMBER COULD NEVER
crazy seeing this again after where I’m at in the story :hah: I almost forgot about this convo
- May 11, 2021·1 replyJosh
crazy seeing this again after where I’m at in the story :hah: I almost forgot about this convo
UH OH. I hope it’s not crazy in a bad way
I really like their relationship
- May 11, 2021
Lucky LucianoI think you've read the comics, right?
I imagine that changes a lot of things of the male character.
You think they should keep it in?now that I’m actually at this part. I think they could have it implied that it happens without actually showing it take place. I’m not too sure how it would go but yeah. S\*\*\* was crazy reading it
- May 11, 2021·1 replyEverest
UH OH. I hope it’s not crazy in a bad way
I really like their relationship
they're good but it’s just wild :hah: you’ll see what I mean
- May 11, 2021·1 replyJosh
they're good but it’s just wild :hah: you’ll see what I mean
I just got to the part where Angstrom revealed he has grabbed a bunch of Invincibles from all the different timelines. Not sure if that becomes something huge or it’s just a one and done battle for the next issue but it blew my mind
- May 11, 2021·2 repliesEverest
I just got to the part where Angstrom revealed he has grabbed a bunch of Invincibles from all the different timelines. Not sure if that becomes something huge or it’s just a one and done battle for the next issue but it blew my mind
oh you’re getting into the s\*\*\*s then. It starts getting crazier from there lmao. I don’t know how Kirkman is gonna do the next seasons, like if it’s 8 episodes per season but Angstrom deserves a whole season imo
- May 11, 2021·2 repliesJosh
oh you’re getting into the s\*\*\*s then. It starts getting crazier from there lmao. I don’t know how Kirkman is gonna do the next seasons, like if it’s 8 episodes per season but Angstrom deserves a whole season imo
I was thinking a cool season 2 cliffhanger would be mark finding omniman on that planet with his son
but Omni-man has been a huge part of why this show is blowing up, I can’t see them having him gone for a whole season. Maybe S2 will be that stuff and then the cliffhanger will be something to do with Angstrom
May 11, 2021·1 replyRead several volumes of the comic. Show not as good. Has weird politics. Kind of ugly too.
- May 11, 2021Everest
I was thinking a cool season 2 cliffhanger would be mark finding omniman on that planet with his son
but Omni-man has been a huge part of why this show is blowing up, I can’t see them having him gone for a whole season. Maybe S2 will be that stuff and then the cliffhanger will be something to do with Angstrom
yeah you’re right. I’m just curious to see what they’d have leading up to a season finale cliffhanger. A lot of the stuff that happens after Omni-Man leaves took place during season 1 with the Flaxans and the Sequids mostly
May 11, 2021·1 replyMangoRead several volumes of the comic. Show not as good. Has weird politics. Kind of ugly too.
wym weird politics
- May 11, 2021·edited·8 repliesCLB BMO
wym weird politics
Starts with an attack on the White House where you get a secret service agent being humanized in a really cloying way who later shows up critiquing British aristocracy (while having defended a building that is meant to evoke the same power over the people). His life is threatened in that confrontation in a really manipulative way. Heroes being arms of the state goes examined. Same in the comics. They use Omni Man's imperialist ambition and racial supremacy as a way to paint this US intelligence network as ambivalent. But the show also starts doing a lot of representational recasting to obfuscate it further. Turning William gay, Amber black, the mother Korean. It's rather coercive and thin and uninspired. Maybe the comic and show turns into something more self-aware? If not it's pretty naive.
Feels like Amazon trying to compensate for The Boys being so cynical of power while copying its over-the-top violence right off the bat. It's like edgy Marvel I guess. I'd be okay it if the show offered something to compensate for it. It doesn't look great. The comic does, and it's a vision completely bereft of contemporary superficial pandering unlike the show.
proper 🔩May 11, 2021
Womanpuncher69the whole last fight with Omni Man going on about how the Vitamin or whatever should take over the world for the betterment of human beings feeling a direct and obvious reference to colonization and the justification for it
The vitamin
- May 11, 2021Mango
Starts with an attack on the White House where you get a secret service agent being humanized in a really cloying way who later shows up critiquing British aristocracy (while having defended a building that is meant to evoke the same power over the people). His life is threatened in that confrontation in a really manipulative way. Heroes being arms of the state goes examined. Same in the comics. They use Omni Man's imperialist ambition and racial supremacy as a way to paint this US intelligence network as ambivalent. But the show also starts doing a lot of representational recasting to obfuscate it further. Turning William gay, Amber black, the mother Korean. It's rather coercive and thin and uninspired. Maybe the comic and show turns into something more self-aware? If not it's pretty naive.
Feels like Amazon trying to compensate for The Boys being so cynical of power while copying its over-the-top violence right off the bat. It's like edgy Marvel I guess. I'd be okay it if the show offered something to compensate for it. It doesn't look great. The comic does, and it's a vision completely bereft of contemporary superficial pandering unlike the show.
oh yeah those are definitely noticable. Idk how far u are in the comics but I don’t wanna spoil anything directly but maybe the show painting the us government as this faction for good is just set up for what happens later. Cause later they start doing questionable things (one of them happens at the end of the show with Cecil hiring the guy to make reanimen) and it leads to mark questioning the government. I think the Mom being Korean was just a nod to the studio doing the animation (it’s based in South Korea) cause I don’t think her ancestry/race is ever mentioned in the comics. And William is gay in the comics he just doesn’t figure it out till much later. The amber change idk bout that one though. I just treat her as a new character at this point she’s nothing like her comic counterpart. Kinda makes me worried where they’ll go with her character down the line cause theres a scene which I just don’t see letting the animated version of amber letting happen to her at all. Some of them feel like diversity changes just for the sake of it but I also think it was Kirkmen trying to put story lines that would span over multiple issues all it once into an 8 episode season. Like the thing with Rick getting turned into a reanimen and him and William having a relationship keeps popping up throughout and doesn’t complete until like issue 60 ish if I remember right.
May 11, 2021Show amazing fr. OmniMan’s character development dawg...
May 11, 2021the cast btw is incredible top to bottom
Vlonely 🦍May 12, 2021This s*** fye
Binged it over 3 days and I haven’t binged a show in ages
- May 12, 2021·1 replyMango
Starts with an attack on the White House where you get a secret service agent being humanized in a really cloying way who later shows up critiquing British aristocracy (while having defended a building that is meant to evoke the same power over the people). His life is threatened in that confrontation in a really manipulative way. Heroes being arms of the state goes examined. Same in the comics. They use Omni Man's imperialist ambition and racial supremacy as a way to paint this US intelligence network as ambivalent. But the show also starts doing a lot of representational recasting to obfuscate it further. Turning William gay, Amber black, the mother Korean. It's rather coercive and thin and uninspired. Maybe the comic and show turns into something more self-aware? If not it's pretty naive.
Feels like Amazon trying to compensate for The Boys being so cynical of power while copying its over-the-top violence right off the bat. It's like edgy Marvel I guess. I'd be okay it if the show offered something to compensate for it. It doesn't look great. The comic does, and it's a vision completely bereft of contemporary superficial pandering unlike the show.
I actually didn't know his mom was made Korean in the show. I assumed she was Korean in the comics ad well when I binged it. Kirkman even stated his mom's race wasn't mentioned at all as well.
Kirkman did an interview said he added representation to update with the times. I don't think he did anything extra or too much with it. I think you're reading too deep into it
- May 12, 2021·edited·3 replies
Damn that fight with Mark vs. Conquest
Whenever they get to that on the show, they gotta nail it & make that one of the craziest fights in tv history
- May 12, 2021ragedsycokiller
I actually didn't know his mom was made Korean in the show. I assumed she was Korean in the comics ad well when I binged it. Kirkman even stated his mom's race wasn't mentioned at all as well.
Kirkman did an interview said he added representation to update with the times. I don't think he did anything extra or too much with it. I think you're reading too deep into it
I don't think you adequately engaged enough of my argument. Probably because you didn't think about any of it. So keep it moving.
May 12, 2021·1 replyMangoStarts with an attack on the White House where you get a secret service agent being humanized in a really cloying way who later shows up critiquing British aristocracy (while having defended a building that is meant to evoke the same power over the people). His life is threatened in that confrontation in a really manipulative way. Heroes being arms of the state goes examined. Same in the comics. They use Omni Man's imperialist ambition and racial supremacy as a way to paint this US intelligence network as ambivalent. But the show also starts doing a lot of representational recasting to obfuscate it further. Turning William gay, Amber black, the mother Korean. It's rather coercive and thin and uninspired. Maybe the comic and show turns into something more self-aware? If not it's pretty naive.
Feels like Amazon trying to compensate for The Boys being so cynical of power while copying its over-the-top violence right off the bat. It's like edgy Marvel I guess. I'd be okay it if the show offered something to compensate for it. It doesn't look great. The comic does, and it's a vision completely bereft of contemporary superficial pandering unlike the show.
Zazie Beetz character has more depth than the original Amber ever did
William was gay in the comics and this way the show doesn’t have to adapt the weird late 2000s-esque coming out story that has aged poorly
The Mum being Korean doesn’t really change anything
- May 12, 2021·edited·2 repliestheboy
Zazie Beetz character has more depth than the original Amber ever did
William was gay in the comics and this way the show doesn’t have to adapt the weird late 2000s-esque coming out story that has aged poorly
The Mum being Korean doesn’t really change anything
Why can't any of you weirdos read a paragraph and take it as a whole? I don't care if they gender and race and sexuality swap everybody. Not the issue here. I don't find source material sacrosanct. The Boys doesn't even follow the comic at all. So when this does follow the comic with a few key changes, I notice the key changes. I also notice the nature of those changes.
Somebody said the story does get more critical of the nationalistic and militaristic stuff. That's the issue. Just stapling representational stuff onto that isn't an adequate redress. So that was my critique. Do you get it?
I read 4 volumes of the comic. Obviously I'm not aware of the plot turns you guys spoiled for me.
- May 12, 2021·1 replyMango· edited
Why can't any of you weirdos read a paragraph and take it as a whole? I don't care if they gender and race and sexuality swap everybody. Not the issue here. I don't find source material sacrosanct. The Boys doesn't even follow the comic at all. So when this does follow the comic with a few key changes, I notice the key changes. I also notice the nature of those changes.
Somebody said the story does get more critical of the nationalistic and militaristic stuff. That's the issue. Just stapling representational stuff onto that isn't an adequate redress. So that was my critique. Do you get it?
I read 4 volumes of the comic. Obviously I'm not aware of the plot turns you guys spoiled for me.
Wdym
How does having a diverse cast clash with a critique of nationalism or militarism?
- May 12, 2021·1 replytheboy
Wdym
How does having a diverse cast clash with a critique of nationalism or militarism?
I find it insidious when media is superficially progressive while reinforcing s*** like the CIA. See: Black Panther