I f*** with TPAB and the content he raps about on there but political matter on records isn't new. He didn't bring a new sound accompanying the content matter either.
It's been done before but I think it was more in line with contemporary events.
I enjoyed it. But it wasn’t anything special in my eyes. I’ve heard better political records. Spoken word is not really my thing but I f***ed with the jazz music he threw in there. But I still only had like a few songs on there that I liked and the others were skips for me. So much for groundbreaking hip hop album.
He just dropped it at a great time and almost every black person ate it up. Paid more attention to the message than the actual music. It was not great sonically. Just good.
I knew you was gonna put TPAB and I hate when people say that s***. Niggas act like Kendrick created the holy grail by doing spoken word and rapping on jazz tracks. That s*** was an ok experimental album.
It did nothing for the culture. Everybody jumped on it cuz of his black plight subject matter and now what? What influence does it hold now? Like it wasn’t no Martin Luther King Jr Speech. But y’all really act like he did something for us with that album and it’s annoying.
So you just wanted to argue about TPAB? I put way more albums than that. And if you want to believe that TPAB wasn't culture defining when it's apparent that your problem lol
I f*** with TPAB and the content he raps about on there but political matter on records isn't new. He didn't bring a new sound accompanying the content matter either.
It's been done before but I think it was more in line with contemporary events.
Is isnt ground breaking because of any of those things you mentioned lol. But go off. Yall just don't like Kendrick so you gonna deny the impact of TPAB forever.
Is isnt ground breaking because of any of those things you mentioned lol. But go off. Yall just don't like Kendrick so you gonna deny the impact of TPAB forever.
So you're assuming I don't like Kendrick because I disagree with your opinion?
NWA pushed the buck decades prior with the content Kendrick pushed with TPAB. TPAB was lauded because it dealt with political matters (in the climate it was released in) and a grandiose sound.
I actually get irked when people discredit TPAB because people are more about Bops than the content rappers put out.
GKMC & TPAB are my two favourite albums for moments in my life (and TPAB for my political education) the same way Drake's albums are. A differing opinion doesn't mean someone dislikes an artist.
Anyways. Im still keeping my hopes up for an announcement this month. If lucky lefty is in fact dropping, I would expect at least that song to drop this month. If not, then the “it’s june/july” line was just to f*** with us for leaking s***.
Anyways. Im still keeping my hopes up for an announcement this month. If lucky lefty is in fact dropping, I would expect at least that song to drop this month. If not, then the “it’s june/july” line was just to f*** with us for leaking s***.
I think we'll get news sometimes this month. Either a single or another announcement/date.
So you're assuming I don't like Kendrick because I disagree with your opinion?
NWA pushed the buck decades prior with the content Kendrick pushed with TPAB. TPAB was lauded because it dealt with political matters (in the climate it was released in) and a grandiose sound.
I actually get irked when people discredit TPAB because people are more about Bops than the content rappers put out.
GKMC & TPAB are my two favourite albums for moments in my life (and TPAB for my political education) the same way Drake's albums are. A differing opinion doesn't mean someone dislikes an artist.
How is that arguing the fact that you still haven't spoken on what makes TPAB genre defining. It had nothing to do with just the sound of it.
I don't care what anyone personally likes. But to deny that an album isn't genre defining because it wasn't the first of it's kind is stupid. And if you think in 25 to 30 years, TPAB won't be held in the same regard as other great political albums you're bugging.
Kobe was just like MJ but both were defining in their sport.
TPAB will be the exact same as its predecessors in content but niggas will be singing alright at protest for ever. I'm sorry you don't get that but it's true.
How is that arguing the fact that you still haven't spoken on what makes TPAB genre defining. It had nothing to do with just the sound of it.
I don't care what anyone personally likes. But to deny that an album isn't genre defining because it wasn't the first of it's kind is stupid. And if you think in 25 to 30 years, TPAB won't be held in the same regard as other great political albums you're bugging.
Kobe was just like MJ but both were defining in their sport.
TPAB will be the exact same as its predecessors in content but niggas will be singing alright at protest for ever. I'm sorry you don't get that but it's true.
I mentioned that it didn't reinvent the wheel. I mentioned that he spoke on political matters, such as oppressed communities in America, corrupt and racist police structures, structural inequality etc etc.
Can you inform me why this album is genre defining?
You can call someone the MJ of a genre but sports/music are totally different professions whereby you can't judge them by the same metrics. An example, despite someone putting up numbers in their sport and despite artists putting up numbers another artist can have great albums and numbers but because there are subjective categories that people want them to satisfy, they judge them differently.
I mentioned that it didn't reinvent the wheel. I mentioned that he spoke on political matters, such as oppressed communities in America, corrupt and racist police structures, structural inequality etc etc.
Can you inform me why this album is genre defining?
You can call someone the MJ of a genre but sports/music are totally different professions whereby you can't judge them by the same metrics. An example, despite someone putting up numbers in their sport and despite artists putting up numbers another artist can have great albums and numbers but because there are subjective categories that people want them to satisfy, they judge them differently.
He just said it. Cuz niggas will be singing we gone be alright at protests. 🤣
He just said it. Cuz niggas will be singing we gone be alright at protests. 🤣
YG genre defining too. FDT
I mentioned that it didn't reinvent the wheel. I mentioned that he spoke on political matters, such as oppressed communities in America, corrupt and racist police structures, structural inequality etc etc.
Can you inform me why this album is genre defining?
You can call someone the MJ of a genre but sports/music are totally different professions whereby you can't judge them by the same metrics. An example, despite someone putting up numbers in their sport and despite artists putting up numbers another artist can have great albums and numbers but because there are subjective categories that people want them to satisfy, they judge them differently.
Because it's going to be the political album that defines the era in which we live.
Kids 25 to 50 years from now will not go back to NWA as much as as do TPAB..
Black folk will forever see alright as protest music. That is the only song In the last 20 years to have done that.
It is the highest critically rated alhum in hip hop history.
It was one of the four albums that is in the Harvard library.
It's influenced is seen far and wide and it directly influenced Lemonade, Atrocity Exhibition, David Bowies last album etc.
And many of his peers consider it one of the greatest albums of all times
Because it's going to be the political album that defines the era in which we live.
Kids 25 to 50 years from now will not go back to NWA as much as as do TPAB..
Black folk will forever see alright as protest music. That is the only song In the last 20 years to have done that.
It is the highest critically rated alhum in hip hop history.
It was one of the four albums that is in the Harvard library.
It's influenced is seen far and wide and it directly influenced Lemonade, Atrocity Exhibition, David Bowies last album etc.
And many of his peers consider it one of the greatest albums of all times
There was literally a movie about NWA a few years ago..
There was literally a movie about NWA a few years ago..
Ok lol. How does that take away from TPAB?
Ok lol. How does that take away from TPAB?
You said people won't go back to NWA the same as TPAB.
Straight Outta Compton (the movie released in 2015).
NWA/Straight Outta Compton released in 1988...
That shows you how defining that album was, it still emanates today.
You said people won't go back to NWA the same as TPAB.
Straight Outta Compton (the movie released in 2015).
NWA/Straight Outta Compton released in 1988...
That shows you how defining that album was, it still emanates today.
Musically? We are talking about albums lol. They made a movie about artists
How is that even relevant to our discussion about them revisiting TPAB more than they do f*** the police?
cacs itt downplaying tpab cus clb ain’t drop
Musically? We are talking about albums lol. They made a movie about artists
How is that even relevant to our discussion about them revisiting TPAB more than they do f*** the police?
You serious?
The reason the movie was made was because how much of an impact and genre/culturally defining the album "Straight Outta Compton" was.
They are literally iconic because of that. Do you apply that same logic to 2pac/Biggie, were they not genre defining?
Why doesn't NWA fall into that category and what does TPAB do that's different.
*Let me go back to my point that I never said TPAB is a poor album, it just isn't a genre defining album when Straight Outta Compton did it already and still reverberates today when you said it won't (when it has for decades).
You serious?
The reason the movie was made was because how much of an impact and genre/culturally defining the album "Straight Outta Compton" was.
They are literally iconic because of that. Do you apply that same logic to 2pac/Biggie, were they not genre defining?
Why doesn't NWA fall into that category and what does TPAB do that's different.
*Let me go back to my point that I never said TPAB is a poor album, it just isn't a genre defining album when Straight Outta Compton did it already and still reverberates today when you said it won't (when it has for decades).
Now you are twisting the argument lol.
I simply stated that no one expects genre defining music from drake lolall they want is good albums and now you are off on this tangent about TPAb
You can have a genre defining album and it not be great
You can have a Great album and it not genre defining
The point is Drake isn't under more pressure than any other great artist
If the music is good like Take Care was, like NWTS was, like IYRTITL was, like So Far Gone was niggas will give it up.
Musically? We are talking about albums lol. They made a movie about artists
How is that even relevant to our discussion about them revisiting TPAB more than they do f*** the police?
The movie was focused on the nature and defining merit of that album which catapulted them as artists with their dissent toward structures placed against people of colour.
Now you are twisting the argument lol.
I simply stated that no one expects genre defining music from drake lolall they want is good albums and now you are off on this tangent about TPAb
You can have a genre defining album and it not be great
You can have a Great album and it not genre defining
The point is Drake isn't under more pressure than any other great artist
If the music is good like Take Care was, like NWTS was, like IYRTITL was, like So Far Gone was niggas will give it up.
We can agree to disagree.
TPAB isn't genre defining but I agree it is a contemporary moment for our times. Kendrick didn't push the buck with TPAB imo but it doesn't take away from its content matter and its importance.
Have a great day.
We can agree to disagree.
TPAB isn't genre defining but I agree it is a contemporary moment for our times. Kendrick didn't push the buck with TPAB imo but it doesn't take away from its content matter and its importance.
Have a great day.
Nigga! Why are you still on TPAB? Lol. I don't care what you think personally about TPAB and it's impact. Culture defines that not us.
This convo was about drake and yall making it seem like he has some abnormal expectations when he doesn't lol.
You keep avoiding talking about what my originally statement was to talk about TPAB lol.
And I mentioned 9 other albums.
Nigga! Why are you still on TPAB? Lol. I don't care what you think personally about TPAB and it's impact. Culture defines that not us.
This convo was about drake and yall making it seem like he has some abnormal expectations when he doesn't lol.
You keep avoiding talking about what my originally statement was to talk about TPAB lol.
And I mentioned 9 other albums.
We spoke about TPAB because you described it as genre-defining/groundbreaking which it isn't.
Which then follows onto my point that opinions on music/abums is subjective because I mentioned NWA were the ones that put a genre breaking album out but you said TPAB is the one for our time.
He literally has critics rating his loosie projects and compilations/playlist with the same bar as that of his studio albums when he's literally categorised them as "loosie" and "playlist".
Those are abnormal expectations aside from the fact he caters to those that want a sole rap project an RnB album or both. He said it himself he can never put out a project that will cater solely to what specific people want from him because of the various audiences he caters to.
I remember the day Views dropped. The s*** literally only appeared on South Africa's Apple Music HOURS later.
Apple better not play with me with CLB. Been waiting long enough.