Tilia

2y

Drake didnt learn anything from the pusha beef somehow

WESLEYS THEORY

2y

Kendrick won not simply because he worked his narrative better (Which he did, you're right about that), but also he just a way, way better writer then Drake. Setting up the liar angle on Euphoria and then weaving through it on 6:16, MTG and finishing with NLU was masterful. Drake had a few good moments here and there in his songs, but he also remained unfocused when it mattered most. He was giving bars out to Rocky, Weeknd and Rick Ross when he should've been solely focused on delivering against Kendrick. He didn't take Kendrick seriously enough for whatever reason, and it cost him.

WESLEYS THEORY

2y

Too egotistical. He got humbled the hard way.

YA ICEMAN ACE

2y

He did hit some crazy pockets for sure. The ghost / AI bars were some of my favorites, that s*** was clever. I liked Drake's Mike/Prince flips a ton

CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

2y

People underestimate how framing a narrative played a huge part in this beef. Across the four songs, dot made sure to paint drake as a liar at every turn before slinging mud of his own.

NunTheWiser

2y

This narrative that Wayne should be entitled to perform because it’s his home town is mad weird to me.

Undun

2y

Drizzy won round 2

BomboklaTT

2y

This would not be a thing if wayne did not went on a 9 month media campaign where he expressed wanting to do it more than anything

Undun

2y

Drizzy won round 2

BrickellBayside

2y

Wayne’s obviously a legend in his own right but like,

He had no transcendent residency right now, there is no historic tour, there are no smash records, and like these are facts

So genuinely curious what would even be the reasoning for him headlining the SB in 2024 over the likes of a Kendrick Lamar? Simply because he’s from New Orleans?

I don’t even think niggas even care for Lil Wayne like that in 2024 except online tbh

BomboklaTT

2y

Dre, Usher, Justin Timberlake for examples fall in the same category. SB is not a rolling loud tier festival.

BrickellBayside

2y

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They do not fall in the same category man.

Usher’s my way residency literally transcended culture. Wayne is performing at State Fairs right now.

Dre was in conjunction with Snoop dogg which…it’s snoop, it speaks for itself wayne is not snoop dogg

Lil Wayne is not Justin Timberlake when it comes to pop sensibilities. Again, lil Wayne is performing in the middle of nowhere tryna get hot in 2024. You think JT would be performing at the Illinois state fair??? Really?

The argument for Wayne would make more sense if his discography aged better. He’s just not to THAT level of legendary / iconic

YA ICEMAN ACE

2y

sigh look man, I am trying to give kudos to Kendrick without regurgitating all the same bullshit we've been spewing to each other for the last four months because it's all washed and exhausting

But I'll pull the thread because I take issue with "Only Drake fans pretend you could win a rap battle but not rap the best" -- that isn't pretending. Kendrick is widely considered to be the winner of their battle because NLU is everywhere. It's a catchy banger that everyone can and will sing along to, scathing insults included. You may believe that Kendrick rapped better than Drake (Family Matters / THP6) on NLU, but that is not the criterion that the masses are using to have declared Kendrick the winner

Kendrick is declared to have won because he controlled the moment and released an insulting banger, the same way Drake controlled the moment and released an insulting banger against Meek Mill with B2B. In that case Drake out-rapped Meek, but it really wasn't the point. Pusha won over Drake because he controlled the moment and revealed that Drake had a kid, not because he rapped better. Again, you could argue either way (I personally think the bars on Duppy Freestyle >>>> bars on Story of Adidon) but it really doesn't matter

NunTheWiser

2y

This narrative that Wayne should be entitled to perform because it’s his home town is mad weird to me.

TheFader

2y

The only negativity is coming from two camps:

1. Drake stans

2. Idiotic millennial Young Money/Lil Wayne stans who have zero clue how live performance works and think that Lil Wayne should be headlining a Super Bowl Halftime Show in 2024

BomboklaTT

2y

Wayne did same to rap.

Wayne would not be doing it solo. Would've been several guest appearances.

Wayne outsold JB by 200k in 2018 but ok

He's on tour like 30% of the year, the demand isn't there when you're available all of the time.

YA ICEMAN ACE

2y

Still don't think he out-rapped Drake in their battle, but god damn he played the public perception and appearance component of the moment perfectly

BrickellBayside

2y

To be clear I am not saying that Wayne would have been a bad choice he’s obv one of the greatest rappers ever

Just that…if he was remotely relevant in 2024 and there was demand for lil Wayne, he wouldn’t be on tour in the middle of nowhere with Selfish Sons and The Kid Laroi fam.

So there’s no present demand, and none of his back catalogue is being consumed in high quantities…how then, is he a formidable SB tier level act? He’s not even close, respectfully

Again dot just had one of the greatest tours of all time and on top of that has smash records right now along with an undisputed catalogue…Wayne is doing spot dates with Selfish sons

That tells you everything you need to know fr

AvenueJones

2y

The 1 on 1 happened the first weekend of May and we saw how it went down. If you need a reminder just circle Super Bowl Sunday on ya calendar

mos def

2y

Big Fax

NunTheWiser

2y

This narrative that Wayne should be entitled to perform because it’s his home town is mad weird to me.