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  • Nov 10, 2021

    I don't know. MBDTF felt like artistic rawness at its peak. After Hours is more like refined art at its peak if that makes any sense

  • Nov 10, 2021

    Glad to see genuine discussion ITT, that was my intention

  • U niggas need to stop that nigga makes straight pop music lol relax

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    Damn did someone drop the link to this thread in Ye sxn or something? The last two pages

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    You have to go back to the 80s to find a 'MBDTF-tier' album.

  • Nov 10, 2021

    Hell no 😭😭😭😂😂😂

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    provider

    Damn did someone drop the link to this thread in Ye sxn or something? The last two pages

    Half these people are thinking I’m comparing it directly to MBDTF

  • Nov 10, 2021

    This s*** is not nearly as good as Dark fantasy. It doesn’t matter what strange angles you’re looking at and it doesn’t matter you put Dominance in bold letters

  • Nov 10, 2021

    Great album - forced comparison

  • Nov 10, 2021

    ion remember a single song off after hours.. Trilogy was the last MBDTF tier album

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    Cam Skattebo Fan

    Half these people are thinking I’m comparing it directly to MBDTF

    Music sxn reading comprehension been embarrassing lately

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    Worldpremiere_

    Music sxn reading comprehension been embarrassing lately

    It’s just the culture of the internet nowadays, they read headlines and their mind is made up

  • Nov 10, 2021
    Cam Skattebo Fan

    It’s just the culture of the internet nowadays, they read headlines and their mind is made up

    They even read OP and then pick and choose what to reply to in order to solidify their irrelevant points cause they live to be offended starting to get annoying fr.

  • Nov 10, 2021

    worse thread on ktt2

  • Nov 10, 2021
    A Mad Ass Nigga

    Ye stans need to stop acting like there haven’t been MBDTF tier albums to drop after Ye made the album.

    there has, but dont die on this hill on this album. lame ass

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    Cam Skattebo Fan

    Yes, I posted this in the other thread but I’d like to see some discussion about it.

    When people big up MBDTF (which they should) often times they bring up critical and fan reception, cultural significance, radio hits, aesthetic, dominance of its respective lane, and overall execution of the era itself. (Copied from my own post)

    Critical and Fan Reception - After Hours is The Weeknd’s highest critically acclaimed studio album in his discography, garnering a higher score than Kiss Land, Beauty Behind The Madness, and Starboy. Critics lauded its cohesive sound throughout, and the multiple storylines told throughout the album and the music videos. Many fans of The Weeknd would also place this album very highly in The Weeknd’s discography, and loved it due to its mixture of The Weeknd’s old sound and his new sound in one album.

    Cultural Significance - After Hours dropped at the height of the pandemic, when other artists in the mainstream simply would not drop due to a number of factors, whatever they are. It became the soundtrack to quarantine for many people, and is now one of the staple albums, and pop culture figures in general people think of when they think of 2020 and the pandemic in general. The red suit character was also a hit with the general public, even becoming a popular Halloween costume for two years in a row.

    Radio Hits - Not much needs to be said here, Blinding Lights is an all-time great pop song, which smashed records left and right, and has an unprecedented (literally) amount of longevity. Save Your Tears is following a similar trajectory, with it still being in the Top 40 of the BBH100 to this day. In Your Eyes was also a brief hit for a while. That’s 3 from this album alone.

    Aesthetic - I touched on this in cultural significance, but the aesthetic for the album is nothing short of iconic. The red suit, bruised/wrapped face, and even the plastic surgery look of the SYT video which had news outlets going crazy for days. As previously said, the red suit became an iconic staple piece of The Weeknd, overtaking the famous free form dreads he was rocking in 2013-2016. Obviously the music videos come into play here, with the music videos flowing from one after the other creating a narrative completely separate from the one in a cohesive fashion. Not only do the music videos play a role in this storyline, but multiple live performances (including Jimmy Kimmel and the AMA awards) play a factor in the storyline as well. You can watch it here:
    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzucIuZj05NwJ9tDljs8tZV-wLu5hok7B

    Dominance - You could not escape After Hours in 2020 even if you tried. The songs were everywhere, the look was everywhere, and The Weeknd himself was everywhere. The stronghold this album had on the mainstream was enough to lend him to the biggest stage in the world, the Super Bowl. Not many artists are able to achieve this feat in a single year alone, and that’s due to the dominance After Hours had on the music industry during its run.

    Overall Execution - The Weeknd & Co. clearly had a vision for this era.

    https://twitter.com/theweeknd/status/1060041839888207872

    And they executed it perfectly. Despite being dealt a s***ty hand with the pandemic, XO played their cards with such precision to the point where they had the industry in their hands. From the music, to the videos, to the performances, everything lined up for them and they hit a grand slam in terms of what an album can do for an artist. Just like MBDTF, After Hours elevated The Weeknd to a level above his peers, and time can only tell where he goes from here.

    I’m expecting a bunch of angry reactions and tons of trolling and like-bait posts ITT, but look past your initial anger from the title and think about the things I’m saying, it may open your eyes a bit.

    Thank you for reading if you’ve made it this far

    F*** no

    • Didn't won a Grammy
    • Didn' t get a Pichfork BNM

    Its a mid to ok album.

    Albums close to what MBDTF was:

    • To Pimp A Butterfly
    • Good Kid Maad City
    • Take Care
    • Coloring Book
    • Random Access Memories
    • Blonde
    • Channel Orange
    • Black Messiah
    • DAMN
    • Yeezus
      Nothing Was The Same?!
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    F*** no

    • Didn't won a Grammy
    • Didn' t get a Pichfork BNM

    Its a mid to ok album.

    Albums close to what MBDTF was:

    • To Pimp A Butterfly
    • Good Kid Maad City
    • Take Care
    • Coloring Book
    • Random Access Memories
    • Blonde
    • Channel Orange
    • Black Messiah
    • DAMN
    • Yeezus
      Nothing Was The Same?!

    you actin like the grammys still hold weight in 2021

  • Nov 10, 2021

    Coloring Book

    I’m logging off yall won

  • Nov 10, 2021
    neu
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    F*** no

    • Didn't won a Grammy
    • Didn' t get a Pichfork BNM

    Its a mid to ok album.

    Albums close to what MBDTF was:

    • To Pimp A Butterfly
    • Good Kid Maad City
    • Take Care
    • Coloring Book
    • Random Access Memories
    • Blonde
    • Channel Orange
    • Black Messiah
    • DAMN
    • Yeezus
      Nothing Was The Same?!

    Coloring Book

  • Nov 10, 2021
    rustcohlestan

    you actin like the grammys still hold weight in 2021

    Forgot to add Yeezus

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    F*** no

    • Didn't won a Grammy
    • Didn' t get a Pichfork BNM

    Its a mid to ok album.

    Albums close to what MBDTF was:

    • To Pimp A Butterfly
    • Good Kid Maad City
    • Take Care
    • Coloring Book
    • Random Access Memories
    • Blonde
    • Channel Orange
    • Black Messiah
    • DAMN
    • Yeezus
      Nothing Was The Same?!

    Bozo sneaked in take care and damn

    Edit: just saw coloring book ok

  • Nov 10, 2021

    Eh it was acclaimed but not like that. MBDTF ran away with it that year while there were plenty more acclaimed albums than After Hours in 2020. Fetch the Bolt Cutters is what popped into my head as the big critical darling of that year but there were others.

    After Hours wasn't really a response to anything either, whereas MBDTF was Kanye trying to reaffirm his GOAT status after a rough patch publicly.

    It's a great album but I don't really see the comparison here, MBDTF wasn't bigger but it received a different degree of praise. After Hours kinda ran up the score in a slow year.

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