CrimsonArk

2y

F*** man

God loves you

2y

Miles come soon

ghosty

2y

Gwen’s universe is so beautiful

ragedsycokiller

2y

I don't want to be a weirdo with shipping wars, but it was clear that Hobie and Gwen were just friends and she was trying to downplay that right?

Makaveli

2y

What about the “in case things don’t workout” note on the Hobie made watch tho?

I assumed he’s talking about their potential relationship or is he talking about the spider society ordeal?

Makaveli

2y

What about the “in case things don’t workout” note on the Hobie made watch tho?

I assumed he’s talking about their potential relationship or is he talking about the spider society ordeal?

ragedsycokiller

2y

You see the camera frame animation sheet in this exact moment when he jumps

1:36-1:37

Niggamortis

2y

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Alright, so pretty much, I have a slight suspicion that the Miguel we're introduced to (I'll call him Miguel 2) is actually a Prowler in his original universe. This is all fun speculation and I’m sure everything isn’t correct.

Initially, I thought it was odd that I never noticed him being introduced with a comic strip/sequence in consistency with every other major Spider-Man in the film outside of just his own comic in that visual pile. We later see at the HQ display the comic strip related to the death of Miguel 1, but never details leading into that end cover of his Spider-Man comic. It’s interrupted and given no detail. Possibly comedic of course, but still.

Moving on to his presented "backstory" from Spider-Society HQ scenes: I believe that Miguel 2 (a Prowler or non-Spider-Man) was brought into another world where Miguel 1 (2099) had the life he wanted. Miguel 2 kills Miguel 1, and makes an attempt to be 2099 moving forward. This occurred subsequent to the Alchemex test runs which introduced us into the many Spider-Men in the first film.

So why do things go wrong? Because Miguel 2 (a Prowler) killed the Spider-Man 2099 of that universe (Miguel 1), that Spider-Man could not prevent the in-universe Alchemex canon event from taking place, causing the destruction of that world. We'd now have to understand what the "canon" could mean, as I now see it as a time-space disruption that displaces everything except the anomaly (Miguel 2, now "2099") and destroys/undoes all else.

Other minor clues and details: physical demeanor and aggression between a Prowler and Miguel 2, body language, hanging arms/posture during attacks, identical claw marks on the train (present in BOTH films during interactions with Miles). There's a very on-the-nose quip by Miles, which he asks "You have claws? Are you even Spider-Man?" We never see Miguel even swing using his "webs", instead, he lunges and uses grapples to animalistically get around. In his first on-screen appearance against Vulture, he doesn't even have an active spider sense (could be for the comedic attack launched, but still).

Parallel with the ending of Across the Spider-Verse: Miguel 2 wanted to replace Miguel 1 because of his better life in the same way that Miles 42 might want to replace Miles.

I think Miguel 2 realized that Miles has the chance to actually change something and either wants it for himself or simply wants nobody else to have/do what he could not.

Schizo post over.

Niggamortis

2y

· edited

Alright, so pretty much, I have a slight suspicion that the Miguel we're introduced to (I'll call him Miguel 2) is actually a Prowler in his original universe. This is all fun speculation and I’m sure everything isn’t correct.

Initially, I thought it was odd that I never noticed him being introduced with a comic strip/sequence in consistency with every other major Spider-Man in the film outside of just his own comic in that visual pile. We later see at the HQ display the comic strip related to the death of Miguel 1, but never details leading into that end cover of his Spider-Man comic. It’s interrupted and given no detail. Possibly comedic of course, but still.

Moving on to his presented "backstory" from Spider-Society HQ scenes: I believe that Miguel 2 (a Prowler or non-Spider-Man) was brought into another world where Miguel 1 (2099) had the life he wanted. Miguel 2 kills Miguel 1, and makes an attempt to be 2099 moving forward. This occurred subsequent to the Alchemex test runs which introduced us into the many Spider-Men in the first film.

So why do things go wrong? Because Miguel 2 (a Prowler) killed the Spider-Man 2099 of that universe (Miguel 1), that Spider-Man could not prevent the in-universe Alchemex canon event from taking place, causing the destruction of that world. We'd now have to understand what the "canon" could mean, as I now see it as a time-space disruption that displaces everything except the anomaly (Miguel 2, now "2099") and destroys/undoes all else.

Other minor clues and details: physical demeanor and aggression between a Prowler and Miguel 2, body language, hanging arms/posture during attacks, identical claw marks on the train (present in BOTH films during interactions with Miles). There's a very on-the-nose quip by Miles, which he asks "You have claws? Are you even Spider-Man?" We never see Miguel even swing using his "webs", instead, he lunges and uses grapples to animalistically get around. In his first on-screen appearance against Vulture, he doesn't even have an active spider sense (could be for the comedic attack launched, but still).

Parallel with the ending of Across the Spider-Verse: Miguel 2 wanted to replace Miguel 1 because of his better life in the same way that Miles 42 might want to replace Miles.

I think Miguel 2 realized that Miles has the chance to actually change something and either wants it for himself or simply wants nobody else to have/do what he could not.

Schizo post over.

ragedsycokiller

2y

I would have been over Gwen at this part

ragedsycokiller

2y

I would have been over Gwen at this part

So Much Pain 2025

2y

gwen was weirdly disrespectful in this movie

ripping out his s***, calling his parents by their names

ragedsycokiller

2y

I would have been over Gwen at this part

Experiment626

2y

that & her basically saying she been sleeping with a cooler version of him

ragedsycokiller

2y

sleeping at the same place lol. I don't think it was sleeping together

Experiment626

2y

it’s a family movie but we all knew what she meant

Gwen was getting around