Jun 7, 2023¡2 replies
papawheelyShe betrayed him by not telling him about his dad âneedingâ to die? Or?
Wouldn't say that it's "betrayal" per se. But it does highlight the overarching theme of most Spider-Man stories about keeping secrets from loved ones and how that puts a strain on those relationships.
I don't think Gwen withheld that information because she wanted Miles' father to die. She probably kept it to herself because she either didn't want Miles' universe to become unraveled after he prevents it, or because she felt that trying to save his father would be futile since that's one of the events that "has to happen" to every Spider-Man because of destiny.
- Jun 7, 2023¡2 replies
One thing I don't really like about Miguel/2099 is just how deadset he is on keeping things canon. And ultimately, yes, he is supposed to serve as representation of the purist Spider-Man fanboys who always b**** and moan about things being canon and Spider-Man "needing to suffer" in order to be Spider-Man. But it's just wack to me that even though he knows people are gonna die and he has the tech to help the other Spider-Men prevent those deaths, he just doesn't let them save those people.
Take Superior Spider-Man for example when Doc Ock was running around as Peter. Despite how evil he is, the thing that he was never able to do was allow someone to die or be harmed when he was fully capable of doing something to prevent it. The mind/spirit of Peter kept Doc Ock from ignoring those in danger because that's the one thing that Spider-Man always does. Helps those in need, even if it means sacrificing himself.
Looking forward to that inevitable drop in Beyond the Spider-Verse which is gonna make Miguel start questioning if he really is a "true" Spider-Man. And I'm pretty sure it's going to lead to a moment that is gonna have Miguel sacrifice himself in order to save either Miles, or someone close to Miles.
- Jun 7, 2023
Makaveliya
he doesnât need to die, spider society wildinThatâs not rly a betrayal tho imo cause she was on the fence about them which is why she didnât fully listen to their orders about ignoring miles lol
- Jun 7, 2023Smacked Voodoo
One thing I don't really like about Miguel/2099 is just how deadset he is on keeping things canon. And ultimately, yes, he is supposed to serve as representation of the purist Spider-Man fanboys who always b**** and moan about things being canon and Spider-Man "needing to suffer" in order to be Spider-Man. But it's just wack to me that even though he knows people are gonna die and he has the tech to help the other Spider-Men prevent those deaths, he just doesn't let them save those people.
Take Superior Spider-Man for example when Doc Ock was running around as Peter. Despite how evil he is, the thing that he was never able to do was allow someone to die or be harmed when he was fully capable of doing something to prevent it. The mind/spirit of Peter kept Doc Ock from ignoring those in danger because that's the one thing that Spider-Man always does. Helps those in need, even if it means sacrificing himself.
Looking forward to that inevitable drop in Beyond the Spider-Verse which is gonna make Miguel start questioning if he really is a "true" Spider-Man. And I'm pretty sure it's going to lead to a moment that is gonna have Miguel sacrifice himself in order to save either Miles, or someone close to Miles.
I mean s***, the whole reason why Miles exists and became Spider-Man in the first place is because he was inspired by the sacrifice his universe's Peter made.
If there's anything I learned from the 20 or so years I spent reading Spider-Man comics, one thing just as canon as Uncle Ben and Captain Stacy dying, it's Spider-Man sacrificing himself.
- Jun 7, 2023Smacked Voodoo
Wouldn't say that it's "betrayal" per se. But it does highlight the overarching theme of most Spider-Man stories about keeping secrets from loved ones and how that puts a strain on those relationships.
I don't think Gwen withheld that information because she wanted Miles' father to die. She probably kept it to herself because she either didn't want Miles' universe to become unraveled after he prevents it, or because she felt that trying to save his father would be futile since that's one of the events that "has to happen" to every Spider-Man because of destiny.
Iâm asking, not making a statement. Multiple people last page are referring to Gwenâs betrayal but I have no idea what big betrayal theyâre talking about tbh lol
Jun 7, 2023
ReawakenedWhy did they decide to go with the name Hobie Brown? Am I missing something?
The prowler from the original spider man comics (616) is named Hobart brown. Itâs only in miles universe (1610) that the prowler is Aaron Davis. So spider punk is technically an alternate universe Spider-Man AND an alternate universe hobie brown / prowler
Mac Wit Da Cheese đ§Jun 7, 2023¡3 repliesCould Miguel be lying to everyone? I got the vibes that he f***ed up the timeline he was in somehow and now is trying to make everyone suffer like him
But I could have been misreading that my audio was f***ed up
- Jun 7, 2023Mac Wit Da Cheese
Could Miguel be lying to everyone? I got the vibes that he f***ed up the timeline he was in somehow and now is trying to make everyone suffer like him
But I could have been misreading that my audio was f***ed up
He did f*** it up but I moreso think he has a deep misunderstanding of the spider man canon. Nerd needs to read more comics
- Jun 7, 2023¡1 reply
Mazapan2I'm not a role model
I was briefly a runway model
I hate the am
I hate the pm
I'm not a hero cause calling yourself a hero makes you self mythologizing narcissistic autocrat
I hate the pm was such a fire double entendre I only caught on the second viewing (prime minister)
- Jun 7, 2023
CARMENSpot hits this really interesting pose right here
it feels so comic book and looks like a reference but I canât pin down where itâs fromComic book fans help me out
The scene when he was looking through the window of the convenience store, something about that screamed classic Black art to me
Jun 7, 2023This kid is gonna go places
Jun 7, 2023https://twitter.com/moviesandcomic5/status/1665850856208490497
CrimsonArkI donât know, they seem to be pushing the imagery very heavily.
And thereâs also the fact that her entire story arc can easily be seen as an a***ogy for coming out.
Can't blue and pink just be nice colors?
It's the same way you can't just look at a rainbow as just as a rainbow?
- Jun 7, 2023¡2 repliesMac Wit Da Cheese
Could Miguel be lying to everyone? I got the vibes that he f***ed up the timeline he was in somehow and now is trying to make everyone suffer like him
But I could have been misreading that my audio was f***ed up
One thing I havenât seen anyone talk about which is blowing my mind is the fact that we see Miguel injecting himself with something during his monologue scene. I feel like thatâs going to be as important to the plot as miles spider glitching in the first one
- Mac Wit Da Cheese đ§Jun 7, 2023¡1 replyDonJuanCherryTempo
One thing I havenât seen anyone talk about which is blowing my mind is the fact that we see Miguel injecting himself with something during his monologue scene. I feel like thatâs going to be as important to the plot as miles spider glitching in the first one
True
Also wasnât he like coming apart while he was chasing Miles?
Jun 7, 2023¡1 replyDonJuanCherryTempoOne thing I havenât seen anyone talk about which is blowing my mind is the fact that we see Miguel injecting himself with something during his monologue scene. I feel like thatâs going to be as important to the plot as miles spider glitching in the first one
Wasnât that supposed to be his spidey powers? He never got bit
- Jun 7, 2023Smacked Voodoo
Wouldn't say that it's "betrayal" per se. But it does highlight the overarching theme of most Spider-Man stories about keeping secrets from loved ones and how that puts a strain on those relationships.
I don't think Gwen withheld that information because she wanted Miles' father to die. She probably kept it to herself because she either didn't want Miles' universe to become unraveled after he prevents it, or because she felt that trying to save his father would be futile since that's one of the events that "has to happen" to every Spider-Man because of destiny.
This, I know we all on Milesâ side but I didnât think the rationale of the spider society was that hard to follow. Intervening in other spiders stories has tangible results that at least two spider-men have verified.
- Jun 7, 2023¡1 replyIcyNeck
Wasnât that supposed to be his spidey powers? He never got bit
I googled it the other day and he got his powers from some experiment I think, his DNA is half spider even though he wasnât bit, hence the fangs and claws
- Jun 7, 2023¡1 replyMac Wit Da Cheese
True
Also wasnât he like coming apart while he was chasing Miles?
You might be thinking of when miles f***ed up his costume?
Jun 7, 2023¡3 repliesSo sweet
like his dad even got involved and I bet that was a nice moment for him as well as the kid
Jun 7, 2023¡1 replySmacked VoodooOne thing I don't really like about Miguel/2099 is just how deadset he is on keeping things canon. And ultimately, yes, he is supposed to serve as representation of the purist Spider-Man fanboys who always b**** and moan about things being canon and Spider-Man "needing to suffer" in order to be Spider-Man. But it's just wack to me that even though he knows people are gonna die and he has the tech to help the other Spider-Men prevent those deaths, he just doesn't let them save those people.
Take Superior Spider-Man for example when Doc Ock was running around as Peter. Despite how evil he is, the thing that he was never able to do was allow someone to die or be harmed when he was fully capable of doing something to prevent it. The mind/spirit of Peter kept Doc Ock from ignoring those in danger because that's the one thing that Spider-Man always does. Helps those in need, even if it means sacrificing himself.
Looking forward to that inevitable drop in Beyond the Spider-Verse which is gonna make Miguel start questioning if he really is a "true" Spider-Man. And I'm pretty sure it's going to lead to a moment that is gonna have Miguel sacrifice himself in order to save either Miles, or someone close to Miles.
But couldnât a universe literally stop existing if you prevent the canon events though ??
OPJun 8, 2023BlueDreamBut couldnât a universe literally stop existing if you prevent the canon events though ??
i think thereâs more too it cause if thatâs the case then earth 42 and 1610 should both be gone cause losing and gaining a spider-man shouldâve thrown the canon way off course
unless miles was meant to be spider-man the whole time
- Jun 8, 2023DonJuanCherryTempo
I googled it the other day and he got his powers from some experiment I think, his DNA is half spider even though he wasnât bit, hence the fangs and claws
Ah. Well I thought that was their way of telling us heâs not naturally a spidey like the others.
Although if thatâs his characters cannon, it would be a nice detail to elude to something darker since heâs all about âcannonâ.
Iâm not a spider man expert all this is pretty new to me
- Mac Wit Da Cheese đ§Jun 8, 2023DonJuanCherryTempo
You might be thinking of when miles f***ed up his costume?
Yeah I thought it was that whole section of his body glitching out but maybe it was just the suit
- Mac Wit Da Cheese đ§Jun 8, 2023https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1666592708452917249Everest
So sweet
like his dad even got involved and I bet that was a nice moment for him as well as the kidKids gonna do big things