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  • Feb 15, 2020

    Imagine running for president and supporting the electoral college and not having a single tax policy proposal or verbalized opinion

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    krishna bound

    She doesn't do a good job explaining it on her website, the reason she says she still wants to keep private insurance is for secondary care which is specialized or experimental, she's explained it before on podcasts she's been on (as I understand it's similar to what's in Canada with a bit of nuance). Clearly if she's VP she's going to support Bernie's plans though, it's not like she's going to be VP and then advocate the complete opposite policy. Even on her website she has videos saying she supports M4A explicitly on the same page

    how recent are these podcasts

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    how recent are these podcasts

    within the last 6 months? pretty sure one of them was Red Scare

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    because i don't think saying you support medicare for all is enough

    little ratfuck pete says he supports it, but with an exception

    andrew yang said he "supported the spirit of it"

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    because i don't think saying you support medicare for all is enough

    little ratfuck pete says he supports it, but with an exception

    andrew yang said he "supported the spirit of it"

    pete doesnt support medicare for all though, he supports a public option. like he's been fairly clear on this.

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    "I support a single-payer system that will allow individuals to access private insurance if they choose. I will also incentivize good health choices and lifestyles for a healthier, wealthier nation!"

    this is a quote directly from her website. if she supports medicare for all she should know you can't have single payer and private insurance. does her position maybe have more nuance than that? maybe, idk. but the point is medicare for all single payer seeks the elimination of private insurance, so its contradictory to say you support both. dont really care what she's signed on to because im pretty sure kamala harris cosponsored bernie's plan and she is definitely not an advocate for single payer.

    "you can't have single payer and private insurance."

    Says who? Canada's system is literally single payer with private insurance available for stuff not covered under the public plan.

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    KimJongUn

    pete doesnt support medicare for all though, he supports a public option. like he's been fairly clear on this.

    i kno, but he supports it "as a glide path" to a medicare for all system

    obviously he's a liar but that's what he treats it as

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    JaeRell

    "you can't have single payer and private insurance."

    Says who? Canada's system is literally single payer with private insurance available for stuff not covered under the public plan.

    the point is that the two systems are in direct conflict with one another so in the long term, the private healthcare companies will attempt to dismantle the public healthcare system. you have to get rid of the private health insurers to ensure that doesnt happen. but this is also a bigger issue with capitalism because you can't have sustainable universal healthcare under the current economic system, which is why im not a reformist to begin with.

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    pretty sure she's also described herself as a hawk when it comes to things like the war on terror as well, which is essentially bernie as well. i highly doubt we'd be seeing regime change wars under bernie (which is basically tulsi's whole foreign policy, not supporting those wars) but it'd be most of the same when it comes to counterterrorism efforts. i don't see much of a foreign policy difference among them except she's probably a little bit more nuanced on those matters.

    Gabbard's foreign policy is definitely more than just stopping regime change wars, it's about actively working with and establishing diplomatic relations with regimes which the US has long alienated solely because they don't play into the same cultural capitalistic complex (i.e. Syria). It's far more about establishing a cultural stability than economic stability (i.e. how allying with Saudis has caused economic stability for the US because of aligning foreign interests but has been a mess for the region). She's very close to isolationism in regards to her selective usage of troops for humanitarian aide and has said in a case as such she would deploy "all tools except troops" unless they were actively invading a direct US ally. She also actively wants to work on fundamentally dismantling and minimizing influence domestically of agencies like the CIA, and lowering things like defense budgets which go to contractors who then influence policymakers.

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    JaeRell

    "you can't have single payer and private insurance."

    Says who? Canada's system is literally single payer with private insurance available for stuff not covered under the public plan.

    Yes, you can do that and if that's what Tulsi's plan is then that's one thing. I'm saying you can't have an overlap (basically public option)

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    KimJongUn

    the point is that the two systems are in direct conflict with one another so in the long term, the private healthcare companies will attempt to dismantle the public healthcare system. you have to get rid of the private health insurers to ensure that doesnt happen. but this is also a bigger issue with capitalism because you can't have sustainable universal healthcare under the current economic system, which is why im not a reformist to begin with.

    but yes this lol. if we had universal healthcare in the US we'd basically have to continuously make sure that a majority of the senate and the president supported it until the end of time or pray it got popular enough, quickly enough that it would be a death sentence for any politician to think of changing it

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    but yes this lol. if we had universal healthcare in the US we'd basically have to continuously make sure that a majority of the senate and the president supported it until the end of time or pray it got popular enough, quickly enough that it would be a death sentence for any politician to think of changing it

    even then it wouldnt be enough, for instance social security is the most successful poverty reduction program in american history and capitalists still foam at the mouth at getting rid of it, popularity be damned

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    KimJongUn

    even then it wouldnt be enough, for instance social security is the most successful poverty reduction program in american history and capitalists still foam at the mouth at getting rid of it, popularity be damned

    very true actually.

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    KimJongUn

    the point is that the two systems are in direct conflict with one another so in the long term, the private healthcare companies will attempt to dismantle the public healthcare system. you have to get rid of the private health insurers to ensure that doesnt happen. but this is also a bigger issue with capitalism because you can't have sustainable universal healthcare under the current economic system, which is why im not a reformist to begin with.

    True. Bernie's plan is the ideal and goes further than a lot of European countries. Canada, France, England, Australia, and the Netherlands all have private insurance that fill the gaps that the public plan doesn't provide.

    Bernie is going to compromise though and private insurance will still be around just like those countries I mentioned if we being real.

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    JaeRell

    True. Bernie's plan is the ideal and goes further than a lot of European countries. Canada, France, England, Australia, and the Netherlands all have private insurance that fill the gaps that the public plan doesn't provide.

    Bernie is going to compromise though and private insurance will still be around just like those countries I mentioned if we being real.

    What do you think of this?

  • Feb 15, 2020

    lmao tom steyer running an attack ad on bernie in Nevada

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    Benito Mussolini

    What do you think of this?

    !https://youtu.be/sbqm3q1_yZk

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    Oh shoot my bad! I meant to send something else to Kim. :​

  • Feb 15, 2020
    mentallo

    uhhhh

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1228705022772490241

    Lmao lawd no

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    Ultra Light_Beams

    this is the most insane, absurd, disturbing s*** I've ever seen happen in the US politics and nothing comes close.

    https://twitter.com/blakezeff/status/1227976156936171520https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/1228707691469713408

    all the “blue no matter who” sheep in the comments disgusting

  • Feb 15, 2020
    Lou

    found out meghan mccain is now married to a man that used to call her an ugly fat b**** on twitter for years

    No way

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    Naming tulsi his VP would be a great way for me to give much less of a f*** about his campaign and presidency. She is nowhere close to him in terms of policy. Her health care is pretty much Pete's plan.

    That tweet is from an anti-Bernie hack, there's zero evidence he's considering Gabbard as his VP.

  • Feb 15, 2020

    Bernie most likely won't have over 50% of the delegate support going into the convention, he has to pick a running mate who wouldn't get railroaded on the 1st ballot. I think Barbara Lee is probably the best progressive choice.

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    krishna bound
    https://twitter.com/tomwatson/status/1228680654163935232

    tulsi

    If he picks tulsi i'm out

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    DickerSpaniel

    all the “blue no matter who” sheep in the comments disgusting

    the same twitter folks and media personalities who have spent last 5 years yelling about racist, sexist, dictator Trump turning the US into authoritarian oligarchy, are now embracing his buddy Bloomberg, who is far more advanced and far more dangerous version of Donald Trump and who is literally trying to buy an election. you can't make this s*** up. these people have have no guiding principles or an understanding of basic s***. it's so blatantly obvious that most of their problems with trump come down to his personality. if trump was better behaved with better vocabulary and if he didn't say the quiet part out loud and made them uncomfortable, they wouldn't have any problems with him.

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