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  • Feb 14, 2020
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    I Legit would rather have a 2nd Trump term than Bloomberg lmao

  • Feb 14, 2020
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    Enpax

    We have really 2 options:
    1. Subvert the culture by promoting the ideas of voting in tv shows movies, music, popular culture in general
    2. Making voting mandatory

    In all honesty, the fact that elections aren’t a day off and the voter is laws don’t really stop that many people from voting if they really wanted to. Idk much about the ID laws, but it’s not that hard to get them in much of the country, and many jobs allocate hours off for their employers to vote. Even then, people are allowed to vote early if they want or mail in, so it’s not like they’re working too much to have it done. I think it all boils down to Americans convincing themselves that their votes mean nothing because “presidents have no power” or “I live in a red/blue state so it doesn’t matter who I vote for” or “all the politicians are the same.” Of the 2 options I gave, I think mandatory (or at least heavily legally encouraged) voting would be the most effective in increasing turnout

    Im someone who lives in a deep red state, and I’m not voting because my vote legit doesn’t matter lol. That’s the downside of the electoral college (but I don’t disagree with the electoral college overall)

  • Feb 14, 2020
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    Trump > Bloomberg

  • Feb 14, 2020
    rip armani x

    major W if trump really gets washed by a 5'7 jew from his own state

    Bloomberg would get washed in the general. Dems won’t rally around him, progressives will go hard against him, trump will turn moderates against him, and he’s got enough dumb sexist/racist remarks to make Trump look tame in comparison lmao.

  • KimJongUn

    its sorta the same thing

    A capitalist in the broadest sense is a person of wealth. I think that plutocrat is more apt cuz it takes it a bit further by using their wealth and political power to change the rules (laws and systems) to make sure that they only get more wealth and power.

  • Feb 14, 2020

    Dude on CNN wished he had a fraction of Trump's Money, talking down on Trump's wealth

  • neon 🍄
    Feb 14, 2020
    Whats up

    I Legit would rather have a 2nd Trump term than Bloomberg lmao

    fr Bloomberg is woat

  • Feb 14, 2020
    space0cadet

    I agree with your culture point. A lot of people are really tired and feel like the government is disingenuous. I don't think that's quite feasible, though. Influencing culture isn't something that you can fix with a law.

    I definitely disagree with the Election Day being a day off. It's on a Tuesday!
    Lower-income people can't take a day off to do that s***. Polls are usually closed by the time you're off work, too.

    I live in Seattle, here we have mail-in ballots. That s*** is f***ing amazing. Every day it stares at me on my kitchen table until I open it up and vote. I feel like that's a good solution. But alas, most states don't have mail-in voting.

    To your point about early voting actually -- it actually isn't a thing in a lot of places -- majority of States, mostly in the south, don't have early voting.

    I just looked it up, and while most states allow absentee voting, there are some that don’t. So yeah, it should be expanded to all states. I wouldn’t mind Election Day being a holiday either, but I just don’t think that’s the main reason turnout is low

  • Feb 14, 2020
    Lou

    Trump > Bloomberg

    In what sense

  • Feb 14, 2020
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    Theory

    Im someone who lives in a deep red state, and I’m not voting because my vote legit doesn’t matter lol. That’s the downside of the electoral college (but I don’t disagree with the electoral college overall)

    There are actually more democrats in red states and the other way around than you would think. But honestly the electoral college should be abolished. The people saying it’s to make sure each state gets a voice aren’t realizing that it’s possible to win more states yet lose in the electoral college votes

  • Feb 14, 2020
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    Enpax

    Also a follow up to my post, imagine if voting was mandatory, so third party candidates suddenly became viable. Less than a third of American adults voted for trump, same as Hilary. The last third could really pull their weight behind a third party candidate and end the system of Americans having to choose between only 2 unpopular candidates

    Mandatory voting sounds awful and I don’t see it effecting 3rd party candidates in a good way. I’d rather have the politicians win over voters than have people default to a candidate because of name recognition.

  • Feb 14, 2020
    space0cadet

    Yeah, that's definitely a possibility. I think it could definitely help with the people who abstained.

    A big problem with the two-party system is the "winner-take all" system we have with legislative districts perpetuates it, as well.

    In Europe, where they have multiple party systems, when are candidate gets 51% of the vote -- they don't automatically take all of the delegates.
    They get the majority of the delegates, yes -- but the delegates are given out proportionally to how much percentage of the vote they got to whichever candidate ran.

    A lot of people don't want to 'waste' their vote on a third party delegate cause of this.

    I will say tho, I prefer the system here to the run off elections done by France and stuff. Those presidents often have like super low approval ratings because most people didn’t want them in the first place

  • Feb 14, 2020
    Benito Mussolini

    Mandatory voting sounds awful and I don’t see it effecting 3rd party candidates in a good way. I’d rather have the politicians win over voters than have people default to a candidate because of name recognition.

    If mandatory voting was in place, the silent majority may end up being more influential than before and just end up picking other people. That being said, I’m not necessarily advocating for it, I just meant it would definitely increase turnout. Another thing would to be get rid of laws that prevent felons from voting even after release

  • Feb 14, 2020
    Smacked Voodoo
    https://twitter.com/GramsciGallo/status/1228029246611783680

    king behaviour

  • Feb 14, 2020
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    Lou

    Trump > Bloomberg

    they're as garbage as each other, Bloomberg is just much more calculated

    though yeah 1 more term of trump is def preferable to a possible 2 terms of Bloomberg

  • Feb 14, 2020
    DEL_245

    they're as garbage as each other, Bloomberg is just much more calculated

    though yeah 1 more term of trump is def preferable to a possible 2 terms of Bloomberg

    agreed tbh X_X

  • Feb 14, 2020
    Lou

    Trump > Bloomberg

    its a straight spiderman meme situation. there is no "preferable" option.

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    space0cadet
    https://twitter.com/OrganizingPower/status/1228170585366073345
  • Feb 14, 2020
    KimJongUn
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF8c3BjFWsw
  • neon 🍄
    Feb 14, 2020

    looking over polls and im shook at how bad biden has collapsed
    i figured he'd collapse but we're 2 weeks into voting

  • neon 🍄
    Feb 14, 2020
    DEL_245

    they're as garbage as each other, Bloomberg is just much more calculated

    though yeah 1 more term of trump is def preferable to a possible 2 terms of Bloomberg

    i think bloombergs foreign policy would be much worse

  • Feb 14, 2020
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    space0cadet
    https://twitter.com/OrganizingPower/status/1228170585366073345

    Oh wow that changes everything!

  • Feb 14, 2020
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    Benito Mussolini

    Oh wow that changes everything!

    obviously not i thought its just a funny ass counter to "bernies old" response i get by low educated voters.

  • space0cadet

    obviously not i thought its just a funny ass counter to "bernies old" response i get by low educated voters.

    I guess. I doubt low educated voters really care about Bloomberg’s health.

    I just hate the stupid games people play.

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