This caucus really a weird ass one lol. This only my first real one following i was 15 in the 2016 one and was only observing casually
So like has there ever been a scenario were all 4 could win? This is insane
I definitely dnt see bernie dipping below 2nd place because of his solid base that’s the only thing im certain about
We can say that warren will be somewhere from 4th to 2nd same with biden and I don’t seen pete dipping below 3rd place
Klobuchars number really f***ing things up
She’s got about 9% in rcp avg,
Let’s say 4 go to biden, 3 to pete and 1 or two in warren that’s a lot
But also yang and tulsi got a combined avg of Around 6% as well
I definitely think bernie will weather the klob realignment if he’s closer to the high 20s and biden/pete are in the high teens and low 20s but if it’s closer i dnt See how bernie can win
Delagate wise atleast
Warren also has a solid base of mid to high teens as well but she wnt benefit from the realignment since her second choice are with pete and bernie who will probably be viable everywhere
Iowa is less than 1% of total delegates so it's more a predictor of early momentum and ideologically where people's interests lay.
I still have my """conspiratorial""" thoughts on closed caucus-style voting but that's neither here nor there.
One thing to keep in mind is the more tertiary tier candidates that drop out, almost certainly the more this helps Biden (and also Warren to a degree). For example, Klobuchar and Buttigieg dropping out would skyrocket Biden. I don't see Buttigieg staying in the entire race unless he shocks early-on, and I think Klobuchar will likely drop out soon unless she picks up delegates here or in NH (which I think is unlikely). I think Klobuchar will endorse Warren but then her voters will split with Biden and her. Bloomberg is just in to mess with the DNC rules essentially so I don't think he's dropping out even though that would help Biden for sure, and I think of course Warren will stay in longer term. But even knowing that, Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropping out causing Biden and Warren to pick up their followers is a massive detriment to everyone else in the race, Sanders especially, who basically has his own coalition who doesn't overlap nearly as much with others currently running. The more people who drop out, the harder it gets on Sanders for sure, who already needs as much help as he can get in states outside the rust belt, west coast, and especially north east which I've seen some polls indicate is split between him and Warren.
I don't think he'll win by any means, but I have a small feeling Yang is going to vastly over-perform vs his predictions
hopefully
slight relief
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Iowa is less than 1% of total delegates so it's more a predictor of early momentum and ideologically where people's interests lay.
I still have my """conspiratorial""" thoughts on closed caucus-style voting but that's neither here nor there.
One thing to keep in mind is the more tertiary tier candidates that drop out, almost certainly the more this helps Biden (and also Warren to a degree). For example, Klobuchar and Buttigieg dropping out would skyrocket Biden. I don't see Buttigieg staying in the entire race unless he shocks early-on, and I think Klobuchar will likely drop out soon unless she picks up delegates here or in NH (which I think is unlikely). I think Klobuchar will endorse Warren but then her voters will split with Biden and her. Bloomberg is just in to mess with the DNC rules essentially so I don't think he's dropping out even though that would help Biden for sure, and I think of course Warren will stay in longer term. But even knowing that, Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropping out causing Biden and Warren to pick up their followers is a massive detriment to everyone else in the race, Sanders especially, who basically has his own coalition who doesn't overlap nearly as much with others currently running. The more people who drop out, the harder it gets on Sanders for sure, who already needs as much help as he can get in states outside the rust belt, west coast, and especially north east which I've seen some polls indicate is split between him and Warren.
I agree but my man theres one thing lmaoo
Yr conflating buttigieg and amys early state support to nationally
Mike bloomberg and tom steyer regular outpoll both nationally
Buttigieg and amys constituency is literally based solely in NH and Iowa, pete is at like 7% nationally amy even less
Those are marginal numbers in a scenario where sanders is supercharged in a nh and iowa double win
The only impact they could hv is in two first states so bernie really really lucked out cus neither will drop before New Hampshire
Buttigieg is at 0 w black and latinos what is he dropping gonna do in nevada, SC, cali or texas 😂😂 Any is even worse
Warren on the other hand does have a constituency past those two states
She’s in the mid teens in Super Tuesday states so honestly past bernie and biden she’s the only one with any impact or chance to expand if were being honest
And seeing how it’s unlikely it is she’ll win both iowa and NH, pending her eventual dropout that’ll only bolster bernie seeing how he’s overwhelmingly her people’s second choice
Steyer is also really high in nevada and sc so he has some impact as well. His demographic seems to be an even split between low info progressive voters and biden voters so who knows but in SC atleast he’s cutting heavy into bidens lead so i think they lean moderate
67 now
how big is this district tho
I agree but my man theres one thing lmaoo
Yr conflating buttigieg and amys early state support to nationally
Mike bloomberg and tom steyer regular outpoll both nationally
Buttigieg and amys constituency is literally based solely in NH and Iowa, pete is at like 7% nationally amy even less
Those are marginal numbers in a scenario where sanders is supercharged in a nh and iowa double win
The only impact they could hv is in two first states so bernie really really lucked out cus neither will drop before New Hampshire
Buttigieg is at 0 w black and latinos what is he dropping gonna do in nevada, SC, cali or texas 😂😂 Any is even worse
Warren on the other hand does have a constituency past those two states
She’s in the mid teens in Super Tuesday states so honestly past bernie and biden she’s the only one with any impact or chance to expand if were being honest
And seeing how it’s unlikely it is she’ll win both iowa and NH, pending her eventual dropout that’ll only bolster bernie seeing how he’s overwhelmingly her people’s second choice
Steyer is also really high in nevada and sc so he has some impact as well. His demographic seems to be an even split between low info progressive voters and biden voters so who knows but in SC atleast he’s cutting heavy into bidens lead so i think they lean moderate
Isn't Buttigieg at 10-13% and Klobuchar at like 4-6% nationally? That's still a lot, it's not like the Biden-Sanders gap is that wide where even 4% isn't a massive change. You're right though on everything else
like if they are satellite caucuses aren't they really small
It’s a satellite caucus for Des Moines at a college obviously heavily favoring Bernie but good to see early support
It’s a satellite caucus for Des Moines at a college obviously heavily favoring Bernie but good to see early support
i just hate this whole realignment s***
i just hate this whole realignment s***
Yeah definitely worrying since Warren picked you +11 in realignment and Bernie only +7
Majority of satellite caucus’s going in Bernie’s favor though so far
Isn't Buttigieg at 10-13% and Klobuchar at like 4-6% nationally? That's still a lot, it's not like the Biden-Sanders gap is that wide where even 4% isn't a massive change. You're right though on everything else
Buttigieg is at 6 and amy at 4 nationally in RCP ntl avg
And 7 and 3 in 538 ntl avg
Shocking right? This hands down been my fave 2020 primary factoid
Dnt get me wrong 10% is a lot but seeing how it’s crazily disproportionately located in the early two states I honestly think both of their eventual drops after NH will be statistical noise
That 10% is roughly wht yang and tulsi hv combined as well and atleast those two hv more widespread support somewhat
I’m not gonna stress myself out. I’ll wait a few hours for the final results
It’s dead as f*** at my work so I’m just going crazy on twitter looking for caucus results
I’ve had issues with Ro Khanna but you love to see it. Probably wasn’t that hard tho
I’ve had issues with Ro Khanna but you love to see it. Probably wasn’t that hard tho
What issues could u possibly hv w ro
Dude is super likeable
Him and aoc my dream 2028 ticket
I’ve had issues with Ro Khanna but you love to see it. Probably wasn’t that hard tho
He's sured up so many Congressional endorsements for Sanders, he's playing a big part in this campaign