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  • Apr 14, 2020
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    Ochocinco

    that sticker is one of the dumbest things i've ever seen but its quite clear they're not "equating" the two. its supposed to be a message of "no matter if your ideology is that of a socialist or a plutocrat we all gotta come together as democrats"

    its a s***ty message and s***ty design but they're not equating the ideologies

    that is not at all what he's doing lmaooo

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    been thinking about it more and despite the running narrative that “bernie supporters” are an unwavering stubborn voting bloc not worthy of resources , in theory they are obviously the most liable to be swayed in securing votes election cycle and post election loyalty

    because it’s so policy based, literally just support the policies in some ways (most obviously M4A) and boom. no other “swing” voting groups have that boon, in that rarely any other collectives (suburbs, middle age, boomers, hell even really soft democrat/republicans) base their support on policy rather than perception.

    it’s just mind numbing to me the strategy i am seeing and just the democratic party’s refusal to play with a full hand and instead just a few cards, hoping they win big

    it’s HORRIBLY ineffective for retaining support for the next election cycle

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    been thinking about it more and despite the running narrative that “bernie supporters” are an unwavering stubborn voting bloc not worthy of resources , in theory they are obviously the most liable to be swayed in securing votes election cycle and post election loyalty

    because it’s so policy based, literally just support the policies in some ways (most obviously M4A) and boom. no other “swing” voting groups have that boon, in that rarely any other collectives (suburbs, middle age, boomers, hell even really soft democrat/republicans) base their support on policy rather than perception.

    it’s just mind numbing to me the strategy i am seeing and just the democratic party’s refusal to play with a full hand and instead just a few cards, hoping they win big

    it’s HORRIBLY ineffective for retaining support for the next election cycle

    biden could adopt bernie's entire platform tomorrow

    would not vote for him

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    biden could adopt bernie's entire platform tomorrow

    would not vote for him

    well yeah but that’s largely bc we know that’d be bullshit, their entire play this election cycle has been running the opposite gambit in that they backed literally the worst option to make that case (second worst being pete)

    how many other candidates came out for M4A early in the race though, as a tactical maneuver ? and co opting other bernie policies to help sway voters? i guarantee if it played out with one of them in the end and bernie having to drop, that would’ve been enough for some people.

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    DickerSpaniel

    well yeah but that’s largely bc we know that’d be bullshit, their entire play this election cycle has been running the opposite gambit in that they backed literally the worst option to make that case (second worst being pete)

    how many other candidates came out for M4A early in the race though, as a tactical maneuver ? and co opting other bernie policies to help sway voters? i guarantee if it played out with one of them in the end and bernie having to drop, that would’ve been enough for some people.

    except most ppl knew everyone else was mostly full of s*** in regards to their support for M4A. it wouldn't have mattered

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    except most ppl knew everyone else was mostly full of s*** in regards to their support for M4A. it wouldn't have mattered

    maybe for you but i think you are basing too much of this contingent just on because of how it played out and the resulting sentiment among the base there after and not on how this base will disperse and vote accordingly (if at all) in the future , or if they hadn’t actively worked against the premise to begin with

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    that is not at all what he's doing lmaooo

    explain then please because it sure seems just like a, very misguided, way to say "hey we're all democrats lets come together hurr durr"

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    Ochocinco

    explain then please because it sure seems just like a, very misguided, way to say "hey we're all democrats lets come together hurr durr"

    Democrats have typically been trying to resist being labeled as socialists or plutocrats. They dont want conservatives labeling them as socialists and they dont want ppl on the left labeling them plutocrats.

  • Apr 14, 2020

    Basically saying "I'm not some out of touch wealthy elite or a crazy socialist"

  • Apr 14, 2020
    Ochocinco

    fix campaign finance? you cant be serious lmao. sure they've gotten outraised these last two cycles but go look at the previous two. Dems outraised Repubs in 08 and 12.

    no establishment politician is changing campaign finance dude

    "its one big club, and you and I? we aint in it"

    He didn't have to go into detail on his site or mention the topic at all if he didn't want to. Nobody was specifically calling him out on this issue to pressure him anyway.

    Joe knows from experience that he can't raise enough money through donation from people or big corporations, seems like a personal impetus for him to make sure dems have an even playing field

    If the dems control the federal goverment they could probably manipulate public financing of elections to benefit them anyway

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    lmao peep before delete

    mehdi was being sarcastic in regards to s*** kyle kulinski was implying of him but this dude been a twat recently so this funny asf

  • Apr 14, 2020
    DickerSpaniel

    lmao peep before delete

    https://twitter.com/janeosanders/status/1250176454534578177

    mehdi was being sarcastic in regards to s*** kyle kulinski was implying of him but this dude been a twat recently so this funny asf

    damn

  • Apr 14, 2020
    Synopsis

    Democrats have typically been trying to resist being labeled as socialists or plutocrats. They dont want conservatives labeling them as socialists and they dont want ppl on the left labeling them plutocrats.

    yeah I feel you, agreed. Thats definitely what its going for. I think I was just approaching it from the opposite side

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    Ochocinco

    that sticker is one of the dumbest things i've ever seen but its quite clear they're not "equating" the two. its supposed to be a message of "no matter if your ideology is that of a socialist or a plutocrat we all gotta come together as democrats"

    its a s***ty message and s***ty design but they're not equating the ideologies

    No one identifies as a plutocrat man

    They definitely mean this in a derogatory way

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    DickerSpaniel

    lmao peep before delete

    https://twitter.com/janeosanders/status/1250176454534578177

    mehdi was being sarcastic in regards to s*** kyle kulinski was implying of him but this dude been a twat recently so this funny asf

    what was the tweet lol

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  • Apr 14, 2020
    Olivear

    No one identifies as a plutocrat man

    They definitely mean this in a derogatory way

    I know, i didnt explain my thoughts very well. How synopsis laid it out was my thinking as well. "dont call me a plutocrat, dont call me a socialist, im a democrat"

    its absolutely awful branding though because seeing those two wrods next to democrat makes a person subconsciously associate them

  • I hope Biden beats trump but racism and ignorance is like crack to white people.

  • Apr 15, 2020
    neon

    what was the tweet lol

    jane went at mehdi bc he was sarcastically implying bernie and all these ppl were corporate shills bc kyle kulinski said he’s angling for an msnbc job by continuing to make the “BIDEN OR TRUMP???” argument, and she read it the entirely wrong way lmao

  • Apr 15, 2020
    Gojira
    https://twitter.com/tackettdc/status/1250180106632548359
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    google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-biden-its-legitimate-to-talk-about-allegations

    Say what u will about aoc but she’s shown the most ideological courage basically since yr started. From voting no on stimulus to her nyt interview last night about biden and her calling his medicare concession an insult and now this

    I never was on the f*** aoc train but she’s reminding more of her roots more recently

    Idk why bernie surrendered so easily

    U dnt want agreements on policy or a cabinet pick?

    These reports about bernies approach to politics basically being “it dsnt matter” have been so illuminating. It’s like he doesnt care about power in the least

    He’s the youngest thinking candidate ever but s*** like this reminds me that he’s a 78 yr old. He’s stubborn af

  • Apr 15, 2020
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    Realistically could Amash be a modern Ross Perot?

  • Apr 15, 2020
    Shabazz999

    Realistically could Amash be a modern Ross Perot?

    https://twitter.com/LSJNews/status/1250069314960531462

    realistically, no. not a chance in the deepest depths of hell. Perot was quirky, charismatic and had very straightforward, simple policies that made sense to a lot of people.

    also he was in a race where neither of the other two candidates were very polarizing. When you have. a polarizing candidate like Trump a 3rd party wont be successful. the polarization creates an us vs them mentality with no room for a 3rd party.

    more importantly, no one on either side of the aisle cares about that bum amash and he has no relatable appeal to people like perot did. You gotta remember, Ross Perot was a billionaire at the time, he wasnt some no name politician

  • Apr 15, 2020
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    Obama fake af

  • Apr 15, 2020
    Electric

    Obama fake af

    he showed his true colors a long time ago lol hope ur not surprised by any of this

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