nobody's actually blindly encouraging it if you read through the thread not even americana it's just liberals triggered at the idea
fr i appreciate the takes but its against a non-existing person cuz no one is doing all that itt
Vaule? I thought communism didnt have currency?
Lol I’m talking about socialism
Communism will not happen anywhere near our lifetimes
i dont understand what you mean
why?
you think innocent people bein robbed is good ?
Lol I’m talking about socialism
Communism will not happen anywhere near our lifetimes
You a Marxist no? Socialism is just a stepping stone to communism
you think innocent people bein robbed is good ?
no not at all.
i just think it's misleading to focus on people who are poor having to resort to violence to live instead of the people who are rich using violence to put poor people into those conditions to get richer.
you can't have mass inequality in a country and be surprised when robberies happen, they're inevitable. once more this doesn't mean that im cheering on gangs to go rob people
i have empathy towards someone whos so downtrodden, poor, depressed, whos had no one there to guide them in life, that they get involved with the wrong people and get coerced into robbing someone. their life is fucked in a way thats probably irredeemable. THIS is the real tragedy, not a rich person losing their luxury item. they're not even f***ing comparable situations
jonathan can get robbed and it'll suck, will probably have some trauma, but he'll bounce back from that its not game over for him
i didnt say they were surprising, i said they were scary cus u were actin like robbing simply feels like an unfair transaction when really you gettin the s*** scared out of you by some bro you don't know who don't care about you who, in the case of some robberies, got a gun aimed at you
keyword was scary not surprising
the other key phrase was "screw the watch", meaning i'm not tryin to compare "a rich person losing their luxury item" to anything
you think innocent people bein robbed is good ?
depends
jeff bezos and bill gates are innocent in that they havent been convicted of crimes
but if they got robbed id be cool with it
no not at all.
i just think it's misleading to focus on people who are poor having to resort to violence to live instead of the people who are rich using violence to put poor people into those conditions to get richer.
the rich are using violence to put poor people in these conditions ? where in la is this happening im curious
You a Marxist no? Socialism is just a stepping stone to communism
Correct. You’re fundamentally missing the fact that socialism is a stepping stone to not only creating social conditions where people want to voluntarily work, but also creating material conditions where things are post-scarcity, whether it be through automation or through advanced social conditions
Obviously people don’t want to voluntarily make burgers because the economic conditions we live in CANT maintain the relationship. Thus we change those conditions such that they can be maintained, because then things get easier
the rich are using violence to put poor people in these conditions ? where in la is this happening im curious
Yes? The rich lobby politicians to reduce social programs that can help them because they can make money instead
nobody's actually blindly encouraging it if you read through the thread not even americana it's just liberals triggered at the idea
There’s multiple people on the first page alone agreeing with it
This a lame question come on lol. Countries need to trade and that's outside of political systems lmao.
There's a whole history of Cuba trading with Russia freely and the US still said nah
Cuba is legalizing private businesses so they’ll catch up soon enough
the rich are using violence to put poor people in these conditions ? where in la is this happening im curious
every single day.
the lack of social programs, food insecurity, homelessness, rampant untreated d*** abuse, and also the visceral violence that comes along w poverty.
you can't honestly tell me that being poor in the United States is not a violent experience.
Cuba is legalizing private businesses so they’ll catch up soon enough
You know they still need supplies and s*** to trade and have to deal with more US sanctions?
Cuba is legalizing private businesses so they’ll catch up soon enough
Do you really think the government of Cuba just owned everything
There’s multiple people on the first page alone agreeing with it
its two people and americana was s***posting on the first page and OP specified only the EXTREMELY rich
Yes? The rich lobby politicians to reduce social programs that can help them because they can make money instead
lobbying is legal, and isnt inherently bad, show me how lobbying has affected social/welfare programs in la.
every single day.
the lack of social programs, food insecurity, homelessness, rampant untreated d*** abuse, and also the visceral violence that comes along w poverty.
you can't honestly tell me that being poor in the United States is not a violent experience.
no it 100% is a violent experience, no one is denying that, but to blame rich poeple is useless is the issue
lobbying is legal, and isnt inherently bad, show me how lobbying has affected social/welfare programs in la.
Lobbying is inherently bad. You really think donating money to influence politics in a democracy isn’t bad, especially one where people make thousands of dollars on a minute by minute basis?
Correct. You’re fundamentally missing the fact that socialism is a stepping stone to not only creating social conditions where people want to voluntarily work, but also creating material conditions where things are post-scarcity, whether it be through automation or through advanced social conditions
Obviously people don’t want to voluntarily make burgers because the economic conditions we live in CANT maintain the relationship. Thus we change those conditions such that they can be maintained, because then things get easier
So we both agree that if someone wants a burger communism cant meet that demand. If it cant meet something as simple as that what makes you think it can meet something like feeding an entire country off the good will of “volunteer” farmers and ranchers?
That would require some kind of state coercion
Something like forced relocation to farmlands
IF YALL THAT MAD AT THE RICH
THEN GO SLIDE 💯
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