I am not in the market for mens leather loafers

But I am in a debate with someone and I need to know if I am wrong

They are saying that 500 is the cheapest you can pay for quality leather loafers

probably tbh

Carmina, especially on sale
Grant Stone
Blackstock & Weber

you can get a pair of seconds from a solid company like trickers for like 400 bucks so yeah

Paraboot exists so yes

"Seconds clothes refer to products that did not meet a final quality inspection standard by the manufacturer. These items may have minor flaws or irregularities, such as a misplaced or slightly irregular stitch, a small snag in the material, or a cosmetic issue like a small mark or blemish. Despite these imperfections, seconds clothes are still brand new and have not been used, unlike those found at thrift stores."

Lotta quality loafers I see in the $250-300 range. Feel like if you're paying $500 or more it's less about paying for the material and more about paying for the brand.

yeah i got a pair of seconds from trickers, solid quality but the flaw is that the right shoe is a size and a quarter smaller than the left

thought i could squeeze into them but it wasnt until i lost like 30lbs and my foot was a bit smaller that i could fit the right shoe

Quality AND fashion-forward
blackstockandweber.com

lots of options here
thesecondbutton.com/horsebit-loafer-buying-guide

Always trips me out that feet can shrink that much with weight loss

Crying at the being the flaw though

I refuse to put anything on my body less than 4 figures

russel n bromley

it aint trickin if u got it